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Thoughts and Prayers: The Religion Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Slacker, Oct 15, 2019.

  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    One person’s “vengeance quest” is another’s justice quest.

    Moreover, a kid victimized by an adult has every right - in my book - to seek vengeance upon that sexual predator either immediately, years or even decades later.
     
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  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Something something 10 Commandments something something Bibles in schools something something something sexualization of children something drag queens something something indoctrination something something CRT something …
     
  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    And Write Thinking, being devoted to blaming the victim, turns that into he being a greedy person only interested in what she can get by blackmailing him. He ain't the only piece of shit.
     
  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    No, I don't know that there is nothing wrong with you. This isn't about you wanting to tell a full story. That's a lie. We all know that. This is about you blaming the victim because Morris is important to you. Instead of seeing that he is a horrific piece of shit who lied to people like you for decades and tried to bully and buy his way out of trouble, you try to blame her for the downfall he brought on himself. Your twisting the way she confronted him into something bad on her part is disgusting. Your entire response to this is repulsive and it isn't the first time. This is your defense of the Duggars all over again. There is something very wrong with someone who is now staunchly defending a child molester especially given that this isn't the first time you've done it.
     
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  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

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  6. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    She wanted/wants restitution. What do you think she's talking about?

    Morris asked the thing that she wouldn't come outright and say. She clearly had money in mind if she had the wherewithal to say, "It's not a small number."

    I find it strange that she apparently had as much contact and talked to Morris/his lawyers as much as she did over the years, even after she told her parents, a friend (which I read in another story was how she got started with telling anyone) and another pastor/counselor about their encounters around the time she was 16 or 17 and things had ended), especially without involving the police and there being a case, and that nothing came of it until now.

    I'm sure there are some key things we don't know, which I suspect involved her parents and their handling of the situation, given that the families were friends and all involved with church. I also wonder about this line in one of the articles: "Morris never called, Clemishire said, although she said she did speak briefly with his attorney to discuss setting up a meeting with Morris but never followed up."

    Why not, especially if, as she said, it wasn't about money? Correct follow-up was a problem throughout this case, it seems.

    Anyway, I hope Clemishire gets good money out of Morris -- I'm guessing she will -- and I hope it gives her some peace, resolution and healing. That's really the only good that can come out of things now.
     
  7. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    You're not interested in a full story? You have no questions about anything? (Geez, I wonder what kind of reporter you are/were?). You don't think she's after money? You don't think her parents should've gone to the police, even if she didn't? You don't think Shady Oaks Church officials should've done so, as the law required, way back when? You got out of those stories that Morris was talking about money first? (He probably didn't really want to talk to her at all; she approached him). You don't think someone can do any good in life once they've done something heinous?

    You don't wonder about or ask any questions about anything, it seems, but I'm sorry, I don't operate that way. Never have, and probably never will.

    I also look at things through a Christian lens, and that's what makes me angry, and sad, about the whole thing, and wish that things were different, for all involved. They could've been. Who knows? Maybe it'll still happen, with some kind of miracle, maybe.

    But I'm out, once again, unless and until something else new comes out of the investigation by Gateway Church that's going on.
     
  8. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    He abused a girl when she was 12. Then he did it again. And again. And who knows how many times thereafter?
    It ain't like he did something heinous, instantly repented and changed. He kept doing it. Because, as the leader of a klan that was influential enough to make him one of Trump's council of religious advisors, he was ensconced in a culture that believes women are secondary beings and that sexual assault doesn't exist.
     
  9. OscarMadison

    OscarMadison Well-Known Member

    Thank you for posting those links, @Azrael.

    Not sure I have enough Zofran for this...

    Parents of child sexual abuse victims can be scared, confused, and sometimes misled into doing the wrong thing in an attempt to protect their children.
     
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  10. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Maybe somebody will do something super racist in the news and WrongThinking can defend them for a while instead.
     
  11. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    You are starting at the place of wanting to blame her of something unsavory and working backward, twisting things to blame the victim because you happen to admire the child molester. Fucking repulsive.
     
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I'm not interested in your attempts to twist this to blame the victim. He did it. After years of lying and conning people like you, he was finally forced to admit he did it. There is no doubt of his guilt. She tried speaking up years ago and did not get the help she needed. That is not on her. It is fucking repulsive that you are working so hard to make her out to be greedy or selfish in some way.

    You're out? Good. Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. Maybe do us all a favor and stay gone.
     
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