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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    Irony is the people they lose are the some of the ones who will suffer most under a fascist regime.
    Any marginalized group who doesn't turn out in droves to vote blue no matter who honestly deserves whatever the future holds.
    I'm personally not going to be affected by the results of any presidential election. I'm an educated, middle age, white guy who is doing pretty well. It doesn't hurt that by all outward appearances I could blend into any MAGA crowd.
    I just don't want the republic I love and fought to defend to turn into a dystopian shitshow that buddies up to the very adversary I faced. I was and am still willing to fight for those marginalized groups because if I don't, who will. I also don't want my beloved outdoors turned into a hell scape because people care more about a dollar than a deer.
     
  2. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Neither Biden or Harris ran particularly effective primary campaigns in 2020. South Carolina was Biden's first primary win EVER after running a few times Since the '80s. Harris never connected with black voters to the degree she needed to. I think people's ability to digest information is undervalued as much as the Dems are "freaking out" about Biden, I have to think the GOP is also freaking out about having someone not Biden or Harris running against Trump. It changes the dynamic completely.
    We saw how the Dems coalesced around Biden in '20 with very little intraparty strife. I think they could do it again, given the stakes. Shoot, even Newsom's "negatives" are Trumpish, affair with a co-workers' wife, marriage to Guilfoyle. Etc.
     
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  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    This issue is one in which every opinion, mine included, is just part of a large circle jerk. There is only one opinion that matters here, and that's Joe Biden's. If he thinks he can't win, he'll step down. A lifetime of party loyalty says so. But he's also a stubborn cuss, so it'll be data, not arguments from here in the peanut gallery or from anonymous pols, that can convince him that's the case.
    And if he did, he'd end his statement by endorsing Harris and asking his delegates (telling them really) to vote for her. It might end by him making her President right there.
     
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  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Joe stepping down in favor of Kamala to the Oval would fry the R's circuits for sure. OTOH, it would make Mike Johnson VP and the deciding vote in the Senate.

    The R's finding another Speaker of the House would be amusing, though.
     
  5. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

  6. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    Johnson wouldn't automatically become VP. The line of succession doesn't work that way.
     
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  7. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Shows what I know. I thought it was P > VP > Speaker of the House.
     
  8. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    It is, but it's not like there is automatic promotion beyond the VP. If you did that, the Senate Pro Tem would become Speaker, Sec of State would become a Senator, etc. etc.
    Harris would get to pick a VP to be voted on by the Senate.
     
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  9. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    The Republicans aren't winning California. Especially with CFTFG on the ticket.
     
  10. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    But it's one of the things they've done best since the midterms.
     
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  11. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    VP is vacant until President nominates a successor who's then approved or not by Senate and House.
     
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  12. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    The new VP would be nominated by the new President and confirmed in both the House and Senate, as Nelson Rockefeller was in 1974 and Gerald Ford himself was just a year before.
     
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