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The NYT and The Athletic

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Alma, Jun 17, 2022.

  1. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    The accounting for the a subsidiary like the Athletic is often subjective. Lots of assumptions have to be made. For example, I subscribed to both the NYT and the Athletic. I think I was paying $20 a month for the NYT and $6 a month for the Athletic. Now I pay $20 for both. How much of the $20 should be assigned as revenue to the Athletic and how much to the Times?

    In addition the Times was able to outsource their sports department to the Athletic. I read there were 70 Times sports staffers and the budget must have been at least 10 million dollars a year. Did the Times finance department assign some of those expenses to the Times or did they charge them all to the Athletic profit and loss statement?

    I am not trying to imply that the numbers presented are corrupt, just that in accounting there are a lot assumptions.
     
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  2. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    Is there any outlet covering sports at the national level better than the Athletic? I think it has surpassed ESPN. It seems to me that their coverage is a bit more extensive than ESPN, particulary on college sports. What do others think
     
  3. As The Crow Flies

    As The Crow Flies Active Member

    Depends on the sport, but little doubt The Athletic's bench is way deeper in sports like MLB, NCAAF and NHL. ESPN still seems to care quite a bit about the NFL and NBA, so those are probably similar. Also, Schefter.
     
  4. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    A fair summary. Though after further reflection I would add Woj as a reason for ESPN's advantage in NBA coverage.
     
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  5. John

    John Well-Known Member

    If Woj is No. 1, Shams has risen to 1A when it comes to breaking news. Or so it seems to me. ESPN probably still has a huge advantage with Schefter. The folks breaking college sports news nationally seem pretty spread out between ESPN, the Athletic and SI.

    One thing I notice with the Athletic is that many of their most-read stories each day are about the Premier League. I didn't expect they'd find that big of an audience there -- only because traditional media stills seems fairly powerful in the UK -- but the Athletic clearly has.
     
  6. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    Ross Dellinger moved to Yahoo which I think hurt the SI college coverage. I very much like Forde but SI is thin behind him.
     
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  7. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    Their EPL coverage is ridiculously good. Tons of team specific content, tactics gurus, news breakers and overall analysis.
     
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  8. matt_garth

    matt_garth Well-Known Member

    Joins Ari Wasserman and Max Olson as national writers exiting in the last two weeks.

     
  9. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member

    Liked much of her work but it's going to take me a year or two or three or four to get over the fact she in two different stories credited Buddy Teevens with, in her words, being "the first college football coach to eliminate live tackling from practices, believing it a key step to addressing concerns of head trauma and other injuries in a sport known for its violent collisions." An unfathomable sentence to type as a college football writer in a world once inhabited by John Gagliardi.
     
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  10. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Odds there is a new site coming together in time for the start of college football season?
     
  11. BurnsWhenIPee

    BurnsWhenIPee Well-Known Member

    Let's hope they don't accept an ownership stake in the venture.
     
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  12. BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo

    BYH 2: Electric Boogaloo Well-Known Member

    She was doing a thousand other on-air things (which greatly devalued her written work, not that anyone cares about that), so my guess is she's going to NBC or Big 10 Network full-time.
     
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