President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

poindexter · Aug 14, 2024

The Big Ragu said: ↑

If Biden had stepped aside a year and a half ago, and there had been a drawn out primary with other candidates, I am certain she would have never been the candidate. There has been so much discontent and economic anxiety, and she would have been running as the incumbent. On top of that, she's just unlikable to so many people.

Right now, she's getting immediate support because she represents the easiest choice. I suspect in the week ahead, you are going to start hearing more support for other names.

I think there is a better than even chance that she loses to Donald Trump. Joe Biden was losing even before people woke up to how fucking old he has gotten. She's Joe Biden, but with more polarizing attitudes, and without the ability to win elections that he once had.

One other thing, also. ... the yappers on TV are putting this sense of urgency on the Democrats choosing someone quickly, because time is of the essence, when I am sitting here thinking that the longer they take, the less time they are giving Trump and the Super Pacs to define the person and attack. Right now, Democrats are running against economic anxiety. That usually ends in landslide losses. The only thing they have to hang their hats on is that the opponent is Donald Trump and he is a terrible candidate, and unliked by the majority of people who think he's a liar and a bad person. I am not a political strategist, so maybe my sense is way off on this. But I don't understand why they wouldn't sit back, take their time, and let Donald Trump have the spotlight to himself. If he was a good candidate, that would great for him. But the more he has the focus on him, the more he's going to remind people what a shitty person he is, which is the chance Democrats have to beat the economic anxiety. Defining themselves with a flawed or polarizing new candidate (what they will gravitate toward because that is who these parties are) sooner than they need to feels like it would be a mistake to me.
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You can pack a lot of wrong stuff into one single post.

Alma · Aug 14, 2024

poindexter said: ↑

You can pack a lot of wrong stuff into one single post.
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So far, it is. The key is keeping Harris on the trail, and away from a lot of back-and-forth with media.

poindexter · Aug 14, 2024

kickoff-time said: ↑

I can give hundreds of reasons why people won't vote for Trump.

In a David Letterman Top 10 reasons why this country's "average" voter, especially male voter, will not vote for Harris.

1: She's a woman
2: She's a Black woman
3: She's not the Black woman (Hello Michelle Obama)
4: Not voting for someone whose first name I can't pronounce.
5: She's not popular and can't relate to her (i.e. wouldn't have a drink with her)
6. Forced poor Joe out.
7 through 10: See No. 1

Feel free to add your own.

This country has not changed as much as people think it has. Many voters are still pretty simple and don't look at issues like they should. For some it will be as simple as gender or skin color or both.
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Word for word spot on. Nostradamus, move over.

kickoff-time · Aug 14, 2024

Had this exact thing last night minus the crawdads.

BTExpress · Aug 14, 2024

4: Not voting for someone whose first name I can't pronounce.
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Well, there have only been six presidents with first names longer than two syllables. And that's if you pronounce Zachary as ZAK-a-ry instead of ZA-kree.

poindexter · Aug 14, 2024

Guy_Incognito said: ↑

All the polling that was done before today that was the reason this wasn't a slam dunk and many Democratic Party insiders were calling for her to step aside and for it to be someone else. Why was there chatter at all? She's the obvious choice and heir apparent?
For the second time this election season, the Democrats have avoided giving their voters any say in their candidate. It blew up once and is almost certain to blow up again. You can laugh at Sorkin and fart and Manchin but he or Romney would have a far, far better chance at beating Trump than Harris would. Do you know anyone or can you imagine anyone who will vote for her that wasn't voting for Biden before the debate?
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Kamala Harris’s Youth-Vote Turnaround
https://theconversation.com/harris-...e-in-us-national-and-swing-state-polls-236576

poindexter · Aug 14, 2024

Guy_Incognito said: ↑

I'm sorry too though I never considered that realistic. The notion that Harris is the strongest candidate, rather than the one whose turn it is is the one that is laughable. We will be reading articles and hearing whining about her selfishness in insisting on staying in the race when we are dissecting her loss, from many of the same people who are telling us tonight how great a candidate she is.

I'll ask you too: Describe the voter who will vote for Harris that wasn't going to vote for Biden pre-debate? Other than the "Genocide Joe" Hamas supporters who were likely going to hold their noses and vote for him anyways, I can't imagine one.
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Octave · Aug 14, 2024

Big Ragu led the league in wrong last month. Well done. Keep trying.

dixiehack · Aug 14, 2024

Our dicks, delay the sucking mechanism, etc.

BitterYoungMatador2 · Aug 14, 2024

Driftwood said: ↑

Except it's cooked in a big pot instead of foil and then dumped on a table for everyone.

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The Hard Rock in Atlantic City had this at their buffet for years and I always looked forward to it. Last couple of times we have been there it hadn't been on the menu and it pisses me off.

The Big Ragu · Aug 14, 2024

poindexter said: ↑

Yup. It's economic anxiety
Trump campaign is dragged for ‘racist’ post about life under Democrats
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Someone discovered the search function.

Yes, this election is absolutely about millions of people's economic anxiety. Donald Trump is the worst political candidate imagineable. Yet, the betting markets have this close. Which means SHE is that bad of a candidate, because he should be the most easily beatable person on earth.

This is precisely the reason it's even a contest:

The majority of people don't want to vote for either of them, but to the extent they are going to choose one or the other, this is exactly what they are thinking about. ... They already know that Donald Trump is a lair and a terrible person who says and does horrible things. ... and it's still going to be a contest.

Deskgrunt50 · Aug 14, 2024

Fun grits jack! And educational.

I think the best I’ve had might be the shrimp and grits at Muriel’s in New Orleans. But my lifetime grits experience is not super expansive.

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