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Michael Lewis says Moneyball made baseball more boring

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by qtlaw, Sep 25, 2024 at 11:38 AM.

  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Another year older, and he’d lose to Rocky Marciano.
     
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  2. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    He was talking about the White Sox.
     
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  3. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    Baseball Prospectus and Baseball Primer were pretty big around the time John Henry bought the Red Sox. A few of the posters got major league jobs from research they did independently.
     
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  4. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    The stat I saw a couple of years ago was telling: More than one-third of the at-bats in baseball result in the ball not being put into play: homers, strikeouts, walks and hit batters.

    The analytics are great over a 162-game season and getting to a 90-72 record to make the playoffs. Not so good for a seven-game series.
     
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  5. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Lewis’ message is correct, what helps you win a game isn’t what we grew up looking to see in a baseball game. Fielding mattered, bunts mattered. Yes HRs were cool but that was because it was a special event. Now every position player is swinging for the fences; seeing Reggie go down swinging was exciting; seeing the .225 SS go down swinging (and most everyone else) not so much.
     
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  6. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    I get most of the critiques.

    But people pining for more bunts need to get a life.
     
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  7. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Funny, many of the same people who claim to pine for more bunts go into screeching fits over the "ghost runner" rule in extra innings, despite the fact that the one thing it undeniably does is instantly resurrect the sac bunt as a strategically optimal move.
     
  8. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Something made baseball MORE boring? Gotta say that is a very impressive feat.
     
  9. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Chicks dig the long-brawl.

     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2024 at 10:41 AM
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  10. UNCGrad

    UNCGrad Well-Known Member

    I'll gently push back on this, especially considering my lifelong favorite team did tank to get better and won the 2016 World Series.

    With expanded playoffs now, though, I think more MLB teams feel like they are in the hunt longer than they did in the past. KC is a good example this year. MLB teams know that their tournament is the most random one of all of them, and anyone who makes the tournament has a real chance, just like the D'Backs last year. It's made for a less interesting trade deadline the last few years because more teams go for it than in the past.
     
  11. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    Tanking.

    Except for Yankees. You can't tank on Broadway.
     
  12. FileNotFound

    FileNotFound Well-Known Member

    The 2019 Nationals are also a great example of how anything can happen in a baseball postseason. The “best” team sometimes doesn’t win, which is what makes baseball’s diluted postseason more interesting to me.
     
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