President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

What are those reasons, in your view?

I wrote in a post yesterday that I thought this outcome was a result of a combination of ignorance and stupidity, and, even more than that, bad morals. To me, mostly because of Trump, and the dichotomy between him and Harris, this was a moral decision -- and a moral failure -- on the part of Trump voters, who, because they won the election, have now imposed this horrible failure on the country as a whole.

We are a country, apparently without enough morals to do the right thing, now to be run by a man with no morals. I don't even see how we can recover from this. (Maybe I'll explain that in another post). And, if we could, I'm not sure our President-elect and his toadies would allow it to happen.

I've actually thought of Trump a couple of times in the past week as, maybe, the Anti-Christ, for all we know. That's how I'm feeling -- that angry, that upset, that disbelieving that a country I love and have generally believed in, could've done this, instead of delivering an opposite "mandate" -- something we could have done so easily and so resoundingly successfully that it would've spread joy, hope, optimism and respect (all of which Harris displayed in spades) instead of the Trump-inspired dread, divisiveness and desires to flee that are so prevalent right now.

 

It's not about the inflation rate.

It's about the real world impact on wages, costs, and interest rates.

That's what people are upset about. Their dollar doesn't go as far as it did in 2018. They blame Biden for it, and by extension Harris.

It's misplaced blame, but that's their focus. They have no idea what the inflation rate is or that it's come down. They just know their wages, their increases grocery bill, their higher rent or inability to buy a home, etc.

 

Or as I told my mom this morning while we were watching the news: "It's a repeat of 'WTF did he do today'."

 

You want my opinion?

I call two men "my best friends." Both are educated white men originally from Texas.

I met one in 2005 in college. We are both now 45 (we got a late start). He was liberal, aligned with Democrats the past 18 years I knew him. When the economy crashed in 2008, he sold all his things and moved to Belfast where he married the girl he'd been dating. We've visited them twice in Belfast since, and I've seen him several times over the years when he'd come home to visit. He's well-travelled, has a masters from Queens in Belfast and has a very liberal wife and two young girls.

This spring he came to DC to meet his brother for a weekend, and I joined for a night. We were walking in front of the White House, and I mentioned how I thought Black Lives Matter Plaza was a master class in trolling from DC, when they named it while Trump was in office. He went on a 10 minute rant about how the Democrats had gone too far left with liberal social causes such as transgenders in sports, etc. "The Democrats left me, and I'm done with them. They're worried about all the wrong shit."

I was shocked and taken back, but I won't ever forget that conversation.

The other is brilliant ... although I'll never tell him that ... and will have a career that far eclipses mine. He is conservative, but not a maga nut. He feels the same way. The "woke" policies don't accomplish much for the country, and he believes the economy was better under Trump. Call him selfish if you want, I guess.

Inflation may be at 2 percent. But prices are still high. They didn't come down as inflation did. And most people associate the continued high prices as a continuation of inflation. That's what people remember. They remember coming out of the pandemic and housing prices shooting through the roof, and a cart of groceries costing $300. But I guess I'm immune to that since I have a "government job," whatever the fuck that means. That feeling real, and it hasn't returned to what people remember as normal, whether you think that's realistic or not. I feel it, and you feel it.

But Trump hung that shit on her neck and it worked.

Both my wife and I cast ballots for Harris together here in Fairfax County. I am as upset about it as anyone else, but moping around here like you want to drop a toaster in the fucking bathtub isn't going to help. Being "done with this country" isn't going to help. It's petty and silly. Stop feeling sorry for yourself ... and others ... but since I'm white and have a dick, I can't do that, apparently.

 

I think, increasingly, you’re just gonna find people sit on the beach and wait for a different wave. They’re not gonna adapt. Or move on.

 

Trump got millions fewer votes this time than 2020 and yet won (the popular vote). Good job, good effort non-MAGA.

 

Every election cycle, one party wants to purify and one wants to win. If the two main characters from the last two dozen or so pages are any indication, Democrats are still hungry for purification. Maybe by 2026 they’ll be hungry for victory.

 

I’m stepping away from this thread. No reading, no posting (after this) for … I don’t know how long. It does nothing but stress me out and make me mean. I’m staying away from news stories and TV reports, too.

I’m just so very tired of it all.

 

I'm with you. Nobody's changing anybody's minds. No amount of 20/20 hindsight or finger pointing changes the outcome. I'll wait until the "President Trump: New politics thread" comes out. Or 2028.

Besides, there's other things in life to be thankful for.

 

We're on a ticking clock to secession. This is the start of it

Newsom calls special session of California legislature to prepare for Trump's second term

https://www.salon.com/2024/11/07/ne...ure-to-prepare-for-second-term/?in_brief=true

The Pacific Alliance, 2028:

California, Oregon, Washington, Hawaii ... and British Columbia.

Alaska is traded to Russia in 2027 straight up for Cuba. (Of course Russia doesn't really own Cuba, but Putin volunteers to grease the rails and provide military backing for American annexation in exchange for the Alaskan oil fields)

The Northeastern Union, 2029:
New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine and the Maritime Provinces.

Central Canada sticks together: PQ, Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta.

The rest of the U.S. becomes the American Confederation, officially, in 2032.
President Trump, entering his third consecutive term and fourth overall, assumes the office of Chairman/CEO of the Federation, whose capital becomes Magaopolis, the renamed Miami/Mar-a-Lago.

 

Wore my Harris Walz camo hat to the local beer joint tonight, had some good conversations with people. Let the mopers mope, the grievers grieve. I'm up for the fight. I've been a Democrat for too long, so this isn't the first time I've been disappointed in an election result. Probably won't be the last.

 

My unofficial plan is to ride this one out and then spend little or no time on the Fuhrer 2.0 thread.