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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    However easy it can be so Democrats win.
     
  2. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    What would Democrats not trusting too much have looked like as a policy platform?

    I've said this before: Democrats went from being the people of the Big Tent to the people of the Long List of grievances and moral stances that one must agree to or hold to be considered good. It also became the party of money.
     
  3. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    Oh, what dogshit bullshit horseshit.
    Watch Fox TV any day, any hour, anytime.
     
  4. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    You say that as if there's something wrong with having some complaints about Trump, and having some morals. Unlike Trump. I still don't know why the Democrats shouldn't have trusted. How could anybody, let alone so many people, decide that Trump was the better option? Policy-wise, Trump still can't explain himself beyond wanting to sic our military on illegal immigrants, even knowing that legal citizens and immigrants are likely to also get caught up in his determined deportation wave, and instituting his big tariff plan, which he has yet to explain in any detail or truth. He and his staff are just being sure to keep saying these things are going to happen, you know, because Trump says so.

    I have yet to hear anybody give a good, cogent reason for why they voted for him. He really is just a cultist with a lot of MAGA-minded shitty followers, and a lot of others who can't really explain why they voted for him; they just did it. As for the Democrats becoming the party of money: I'll stop laughing when Trump stops recruiting every billionaire in the country to his Cabinet -- I think we're up to 14 now -- and when the ones who aren't on it stop meeting at Mar-a-Lago Church to give their million-dollar tithes to the guy who's going to be their god and savior while the rest of us get left to drown in debt and the good economy that Trump's going to ruin at our expense.
     
  5. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Go look at the list of people in his cabinet who have given him in excess of two million dollars. I think that's all but one or two. Then throw in Elmo giving him a quarter of a billion to not even get a cabinet position.
     
  6. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Better than crying you can’t win so you pass racist laws to prevent people from voting, but you’re cool with that I’m sure.
     
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  7. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    And the GOP doesn't have grievances? For Tebow's sake, if you get your kids vaccinated, you're a libruhl. This is one of those things we took for granted as a legitimate and important service of the federal government. Now, they're a badge of dishonor for the Trumpist klan.
    Other grievances:
    * Any reference to diversity, inclusion or equity.
    * Any book that dares to praise people of color.
    * Any notion that this is a secular nation.
    * Any suggestion that the January 6 terrorists were criminals.

    The Democrats as the party of money? Trump and his klan are gonna give the ultra rich another needless tax cut and pay for it by slicing social security, thereby hurting the poor and middle class further.
    https://www.axios.com/2024/10/31/billionaires-election-spending-trump-musk-bezos
    • A Financial Times analysis also published this week found that billionaires had contributed at least $695 million, or 18%, of the total funds raised by the presidential candidates and allied groups.
    • At least $568 million of that has gone to former President Trump's campaign and allied groups, compared to about $127 million to support Vice President Harris.
     
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  8. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    Seeking revenge on "enemies" who in no way slowed your corrupt return to power is a form of psychopathy unprecedented in American public life.
     
  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The GOP is indeed the broken party of Donald Trump, a thoroughly disreputable, reckless man...who beat the Democrats.

    Having never really been a Republican, and long a Democrat, I am more interested in how the messaging and worldview of blue party has changed, and less about the red party. My commentary assumes facts in evidence, and I am done providing persistent feel-good disclaimers about the other party is worse. If almost everyone here already knows that, it diminishes the value in repeating it.
     
  10. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    That's like me saying I have yet to hear anybody give a good, cogent reason for why anyone would root for Alabama.

    Some things are just not in my DNA to understand. No matter the explanation.
     
  11. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

  12. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    I don't know that there's a "good" reason, although who's deciding good probably factors in.

    If I had to break it down - uncharitably, to some degree - I'd say this: The United States is a highly individualistic nation, trained by various forces and influences to be "out for ourselves" while simultaneously distrusting institutions. For many years, the Democrats' Big Tent was, broadly speaking, if you don't trust the man, and just want to be yourself, saying what you want, listening to what you want, going where you want and loving who you want, while also maybe getting a little bit ahead in this world, we're not going to tell you what to do. The Democratic Party was liberalism, in essence. Freedom. It was a "center set" party - think of a well in the middle of a field, that draws the thirsty.

    Somewhere in the last couple decades, the Democrats didn't just became "the man" in culture, they sought to do so. It's the party of government, of Big Tech, of academia, of much of corporate America, of most celebrities, of all the COVID experts who told people what they should and shouldn't - could and couldn't - do, and Americans, as a general, don't really like "the man," even if "the man" is a diverse coalition of overly anxious and officious people. It went from being a party of liberalism to one of progressivism, where saving the planet and being a "good person" - as defined by progressivism - became the overarching goal. It went from center set to "bounded set" - defined best by Hilary's "basket of deplorables" line. There's a group of behaviors that make you "deplorable," apparently. Unclean.

    It's religious in nature if not in name, and in that way it's like most churches where, if we're honest, it's not just about believing in a deity, but all the other behaviors that come with attending a church of that deity. That's The Long List and, to some degree, and Americans tend to reject codes of behavior.
     
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