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Bill Simmons smites Scoop about the head...

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by jason_whitlock, Feb 25, 2007.

  1. Re: All-Star Weekend fallout, including CJR, Billy Hunter questions N.O. ASW.....

    Yes, and I'm sure the sons of Bil (Wallace's Banker) France rampage through the RV's ripping down the banner of treason at every opportunity.
     
  2. da el g

    da el g Member

    Re: All-Star Weekend fallout, including CJR, Billy Hunter questions N.O. ASW.....


    then how about the night race in Bristol in August, yee and fucking haw
     
  3. Sportsbruh

    Sportsbruh Member

    Re: All-Star Weekend fallout, including CJR, Billy Hunter questions N.O. ASW....

    These two Posts were written by ALMA


    If, as Whitlock said the reporter believed "I pretty much made it all up. Things were quiet and peaceful in Vegas last weekend."

    Why does the following appear in the article:

    "To be clear, the issue is not what really happened in Vegas but how Whitlock chose to report it -- and the possible perils of columnists with two audiences scooping themselves."

    Could it be that Whitlock's using hyperbole again? He sees himself as entertaining, thought-provoking, witty, whatever. But he simply lacks veracity and the ability to carefully choose words. Anybody who constructs an elaborate argument about different personas and audiences ultimately diminishes their impact.



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    Well, for one thing, Whitlock doesn't really believe the truth is fluid based on his responses here and elsewhere. He thinks he's got the market cornered on truth. He shoves it down people's throat as much as anybody. He claims this approach as his message board persona. One of many.

    At any rate, the label fits the rationale. When somebody admits they wrote two columns that seem to contradict one another, and the summary statement is, "the truth is fluid," that's Glass territory. Glass wrote about relative truths, things that could be true, or, given the state of the world, should be true even if they're not. And he wrote definitively, crafting his stories on the edges of beliveable culture. Even if Whitlock isn't making stuff up out of thin air he deliberately polarizes debates, using strong, poorly chosen language, to create a flashpoint. I don't like it, but whatever. But the contradictions...the track record of flip-flops, bold proclamations one week and equally bold denunciations a couple weeks later...they're a little old, and clearly the work of a contrarian. That's why he explains his differing views as personas, or as headline mix-ups, or as somebody else trying to attack him. His critics are fools, idiots, haters and losers in the whitlock game.

    Do you want somebody preaching situational ethics, writing personas and fluid truths to budding journalists? Do you think talent is bend and shape the rules is greater than the collective conscience the "rules," fluid as they may seem, are bound to?

    It's clear Whitlock is after something? What could that SOMETHING be? Certainly, it seems he enjoys hanging out with those that condemn his race, Could it be, no it can't, really, FAME, MONEY & RESPECT?!!

    Like the negative cartoon character in Gulligan Isles used to say: "He'll Never make it"
     
  4. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    Re: All-Star Weekend fallout, including CJR, Billy Hunter questions N.O. ASW.....

    You know, if you make ONE post somewhere else not ripping one person, you might actually have a little more street cred in here.

    But you do not.
     
  5. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Re: All-Star Weekend fallout, including CJR, Billy Hunter questions N.O. ASW....

    Gulligan Isles? Oy vey.

    Hey, whitepages, whaddya think of Scoop's rebuttal. Pretty hard-hitting, huh?
     
  6. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    Re: All-Star Weekend fallout, including CJR, Billy Hunter questions N.O. ASW.....

    I don't know about the rest of ya'll, but I've decided that Sportsbruh is the new Pickle_Juice.
     
  7. shotglass

    shotglass Guest

    Re: All-Star Weekend fallout, including CJR, Billy Hunter questions N.O. ASW.....

    Except Pickle_Juice had a certain charm. ;)
     
  8. NUPE 1911

    NUPE 1911 New Member

    Re: All-Star Weekend fallout, including CJR, Billy Hunter questions N.O. ASW....

    I find Jason's comparison of black youth to the KKK to be high highly irresponsible and reprehensible. Clearly, Jason has little or no idea as to the scope and effect the KKK had on society in its heyday. If he truly grasped the extent of the KKK's activities in its heyday I doubt he would have utilized such a comparison. I'd expect and hope that an individual with Jason's influence and experience would choose his words and analogies carefully. However, this is not the case. To me, it seems that Jason's article is just as reckless as PACMAN's alleged behavior during ASW. It seems Jason drafted this article in attempt to garner some attention. If that is the case, congratulations. It worked. I have actually wasted a portion of my day seeking this site out in order to respond to your thoughtless article.

    I do not doubt that there was criminal activity in Vegas during ASW. I do not doubt this at all. The problem is nothing done during ASW or any of the the "black events" is remotely comparable to the activities the KKK has orchestrated dating back 1866. Hence, the use of such an extreme and harsh comparison is highly irresponsible. In short, Jason's article, which is riddled with hyperbole, lacks any real integrity.

    Now there is a problem in the black community that goes well beyond hip hop, white tees, rap music and corn rows. Jason's article fails to address said problems. Therefore, Jason's article is pointless.
     
  9. Re: All-Star Weekend fallout, including CJR, Billy Hunter questions N.O. ASW.....

    Nupe, thanks for stopping by. My boys from college who went with me to Vegas are all members of Kappa Alpha Psi... Glad to have you.

    We might have to do a body count on drive-by deaths vs. lynchings.
     
  10. Re: All-Star Weekend fallout, including CJR, Billy Hunter questions N.O. ASW.....

    Go ahead. That will add a lot to the discussion.
    Then, you can do a count of how many people who participated in lynchings actually went to jail for it as opposed to those people who participated in drivebys, and you can count how many state and city governments acquiesced (or actively applauded) lynchings as opposed to drive-bys. Star by googling "DeLaBeckwith, Byron" and go from there.
     
  11. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    Re: All-Star Weekend fallout, including CJR, Billy Hunter questions N.O. ASW.....

    Alpha Kappa Psi in the house!!!
    How do you feel about Jay-Z co-opting your symbol or is that OK? I don't know, maybe Jay-Z was a Kappa.

    And Whitlock didn't leave one paralyzed from his column, but bandwidth everywhere is near the breaking point since everyone is talking about it and I guess that is the point.
     
  12. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    Re: All-Star Weekend fallout, including CJR, Billy Hunter questions N.O. ASW.....

    I'm just impressed that Scoop made a good show of actually putting forth an effort to write a column that contained analysis and thought.

    HUGE change from his original All-Star Weekend piece. Which of course, was far from balanced itself.
     
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