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Merged: The Imus threads

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by SheaSeals, Apr 11, 2007.

  1. henryhenry

    henryhenry Member

    TV One is airing the 30th anniversary re-run of 'Roots.'

    good show. painful.

    something tells me that if Imus had watched it he would have been more careful.

    but i wonder if, 30 years further removed from jim crow and segregation, it is still as relevent.

    new generation - new attitudes. i wonder if 'Roots' would be as important if it were aired today for the first time.
     
  2. IU90

    IU90 Member

    I'd say Roots has lost some importance after scandals in subsequent years revealing that it was mostly fictionalized (recall that Haley originally claimed it as a retelling of his actual geneological tree) and that large portions of the book were plagiarized from the works of a white author (which I believe Haley later even confessed). Nonetheless, the mini-series really was a groundbreaking American event and nobody can deny the enormous impact it had at the time.
     
  3. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Defending Imus? Knowledge get a clue. We haven't talked about Imus in days. If it makes you feel better to say I'm defending Imus than fine throw a party. That just shows about immature and shallow you really are.

    We're talking about double standards that exist and yes, there is indeed a liberal ruling class when it comes to these matters and it has successfully bamboozled blacks into always having to play the victim card -- and use it as a crutch to wash away all sins -- and they also have successfully framed every debate or discussion about race in this country to the point where we actually have people, allegedly educated people, not only admitting but DEFENDING the fact that there is indeed a double standard that exists and that because white people once owned slaves, blacks are allowed to get away with saying whatever they damn well please.

    And every time this fact is pointed out -- it is shouted down by the same groups of victims and their enablers in the media and Hollywood. And the majority of native Americans -- if you look at actual surveys and polling data -- don't have a problem with sports teams names -- it is a small but loud group of people who feel the need to be victims and their enablers in the NCAA, which is an organization so full of political correctness it has become exhibit A of why our educational system sucks so bad.

    So Dave Chappelle wants to use words like Honkey, like cracker, like white boy (I mean, imagine if someone called knowledge BlackBoy), like spick, like Jap and Fag or faggot -- all words I have heard him use by the way-- that somehow that's OK. That's different.

    What's offensive is offensive, period. And until we start treating all people -- regardless of their color, their job or who their constituents are -- that use offensive, racist, bigotted and/or sexist terms the same we will never move forward as a country united.

    This double standard is exactly why white many people don't take the plight of black people seriously. It is why there is such a backlash when the Al Sharpton crowd comes out of the woodwork to rally for a cause.

    I thought Newsday's Shaun Powell - a black man by the way -- nailed it when he said there is an element of fraud in the people so "outraged" about the Imus thing considering the only time they seem to get riled up in matters of race is when the offended party is black.

    Until that changes, these discussions are moot.

    That is ridiculous and frankly as a black man that is insulting.
     
  4. knowledge54

    knowledge54 New Member

    You are clearly too close minded and stupid to understand the simplest of things. This whole conversation is about you defending Imus you dumbfuck. The only reasson you are talking about a double standard is in an attempt to defend Imus and support your claim that he was unfairly fired. Somehow you are blaming black people for this whole situation, just look at your posts. According to you, this whole thing is about black people playing the "victim" card and using it as a crutch to wash away all sins(I don't even know what that dumbass statement means). Here's a serious question, did you fully comprehend and understand the things that Mmac just said in his post? I ask because your response does not reflect that at all. Mmac didn't defend the double standard at all, he was simply trying to explain to you why it exists. Seriously, you are coming across as a complete idiot.
     
  5. Mighty_Wingman

    Mighty_Wingman Active Member

    Now that's funny.
     
  6. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Knowledge -- The worst part about a guy like you is you think you know but you really don't. And pardon the pun, but you calling someone closed minded is sort of like the pot calling the kettle black...

    This isn't about Imus, but unfortunately for you, it is clear that when any discussion gets above your ability to color by numbers with crayons you just keep saying the same dumb - and meaningless -- shit over and over and over and over and hope it sticks, sort of like the good reverand Al.

    Get a life and a clue, please.

    I understand completely what MMAC said but can you understand and fully comprehend this -- THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT. And when people like you begin to understand and put that into practice, well, maybe, just maybe we will have a real discussion about race in this country.
     
  7. "There is indeed a liberal ruling class when it comes to these matters and it has successfully bamboozled blacks into always having to play the victim card ..."

    I gotta get me some of these mushrooms.
     
  8. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Mushrooms? I thought people of your ilk were more into puffing the magic dragon and singing the song while you are doing it.
     
  9. writing irish

    writing irish Active Member

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    Cough, cough...there's those blacks playing the victim card again...cough...you see that don'cha little girl? Or are you in the liberal ruling class?
     
  10. German Ethel Merman

    German Ethel Merman New Member

    Ka-ching.


    Rutgers Coach Parlays Don Imus Flap Into Book Deal

    Rutgers women's basketball coach C. Vivian Stringer, in the public eye for much of the last two weeks after Don Imus called her players "nappy-headed hos," has signed a contract to write her autobiography.


    "It's about an incredible woman with an extraordinary life story," said Tina Constable, executive vice president for publicity at Crown, who declined to say how much the company will pay Stringer. "She's a pioneer, a legend, an icon and a role model."

    Although the Imus incident is obviously going to be the main selling point for the book, it should be noted that Stringer's life story was interesting even before Imus insulted her team. She has 777 coaching wins, she is the only women's coach to have taken three teams to the Final Four, she has a daughter who was paralyzed by spinal meningitis, she has a son who was kicked off the North Carolina State football team for his role in a fight that led to someone being shot and killed. It's a book that could be worth a read.
     
  11. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    And -- of course under the radar -- the enlightened and sensitive administration at Rutgers are being taken to task by the mother of a sexual assault victim, whose son signed a letter of intent to play for Greg Schiano and the Scarlet Knights.

    The mother says she informed all of the administrators, Schiano and anyone who she could get a hold of to warn them that they were signing a sexual predator who would have to register as a sexual offender under meghan's law but was given the brush off.

    Prediciably when the story started getting out -- especially since it was on the heels of the good people of Rutgers scolding Imus and lecturing the world about sexism -- the school, with red face, revoked dude's scholarship. That tells me there is no question that, had the Imus flap not happened, he'd be lining up to play for Rutgers next year.

    Yet another example of the level of hypocrisy by the people who whine and cry the loudest about injustices, perceived or real, in the world.
     
  12. IU90

    IU90 Member

    Kaching, indeed, looks like Imus got Vivian a new beach house.
     
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