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Sean Taylor - RIP UPDATED

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Hustle, Nov 26, 2007.

  1. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Re: Sean Taylor: shooting victim

    Jemele,

    If I go to a couple's house for a Christmas party and I see a machete in the bathroom for home security, my wife and I walk the fuck out.

    I have never pulled a gun on someone and then pistol whipped them.

    I have never had a friend shot and killed.

    I do not have a friend who is a violent felon or in prison.

    What is accepted in the one community and what is not accepted in another community gets wider and wider every day. This is a real problem.
     
  2. Jemele Hill

    Jemele Hill Member

    Re: Sean Taylor: shooting victim

    93 Devil,

    I concur.
     
  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Re: Sean Taylor: shooting victim

    The facts as we know them in this case. Sean Taylor was shot by an intruder and is in critical condition. All else is bullshit speculation. The facts, whatever they may be, will come out in due course.
    Whatever their race, people who've had previous run-ins with authority are assumed by very many people to be guilty of SOMETHING in a situation like this. That's an unfortunate fact.
    Sketchy information is a poor structure for socioeconomic discussion.
     
  4. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Re: Sean Taylor: shooting victim

    I'm curious, what will be said if the people targeting young black male pro athletes are young black male non-athletes?

    As for your 11A black victim and your 1A white victim, isn't that just the dog bites man theory of journalism and not institutional racism?
     
  5. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Re: Sean Taylor: shooting victim

    The abducted-female coverage is grotesquely imbalanced.
     
  6. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Re: Sean Taylor: shooting victim

    Hypothetical: You're looking for a baby sitter for your 6 year old son and 4 year old daughter. You interview a 2 people and find that one woman, a former preschool teacher with a degree in early childhood development has 2 prior arrests and no convictions for child abuse. Outside of the the arrests, she is uniquely qualified to be a babysitter, more so than the 16 year old neighbor girl.

    Do you hire the more qualified woman, who has never been convicted? or the high school student from around the corner?
     
  7. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    Re: Sean Taylor: shooting victim

    Same here. If this were Wes Welker, Brian Urlacher, Jeff Hartings or anyone else other than Taylor, my response would be the same. You feel for them and hope for the best.
     
  8. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Re: Sean Taylor: shooting victim

    Just following up on Mr. Gee's and Ms. Hill's lamentations that people are unfairly held to their past. I posed a question to sharpen the focus on that point.
     
  9. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Re: Sean Taylor: shooting victim

    Someone's past, certainly more often than not, is where a seasoned police detective looks very early on in an investigation of a crime that has no eyewitness.

    The past DOES matter.
     
  10. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    Re: Sean Taylor: shooting victim

    Well, you delete a post thinking "I don't wanna jump in on this," and you get quoted.

    Just when I thought I was out . . . .

    Sorry, heyabbott. Your question is as out of nowhere as Jemele Hill's introduction of racial questions, and Simon's subsequent mention of her unfortunate blog entry.

    I do agree with Cowbell that if investigators look at Taylor's past associations for possible suspects, that's just wise police work. So his past matters, to an extent.

    I understand that it happens in this business where we spend way too much time examining our navels, but I think a good newsroom wouldn't have to have a discussion of how to handle a black athlete's misfortune vs. a white athlete's. The key in the decision regarding coverage level is clearly How big a star is this person, both locally and nationally? If Tom Brady got shot in the groin, you bet it's on the front. If Kobe Bryant were, same thing.

    I don't think Paul Pierce's injuries were downplayed, but at the time I happened to be living among the suburbs he grew up in. Got plenty of coverage in SoCal, and I would guess, Lawrence, Kansas and Boston. Didn't read much about Eddy Curry or Antoine Walker, but A. neither one is a big star and B. I was living far from where those gentlemen were playing at the time.
     
  11. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Re: Sean Taylor: shooting victim

     
  12. Pancamo

    Pancamo Active Member

    Re: Sean Taylor: shooting victim

    News reports are saying he has squeezed the Doctors hands and has responded with facial expressions.

    Positive news.
     
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