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Miss California versus Gay Blogger Perez Hilton On Gay Marriage

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by BNWriter, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. harbinger

    harbinger Member


    When the Dixie Chicks said, "Just so you know, we’re on the good side with y’all. We do not want this war, this violence, and we’re ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas," they were hammered for it. Their records were pulled from radio, they faced death threats and President George W. Bush said, "The Dixie Chicks are free to speak their mind. They can say what they want to say ... they shouldn't have their feelings hurt just because some people don't want to buy their records when they speak out ... Freedom is a two-way street ... ''

    When it comes to the right-wing community, only one opinion counts and it's theirs. As for Miss California, she will be richly rewarded for her stance. I expect her to be lauded by Limbaugh and given her own talk show on Fox before the year is out.
     
  2. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    I'd have had more sympathy for Natalie Maines if she had stopped at "we do not want this war." When she said she was ashamed to be from the same state as the president, it became a personal attack. Sure, she was still entitled to be able to say it, but the ensuing backlash should not have come as a surprise.

    Even if she had said, "I personally don't agree with the president," or, "I personally believe the president is wrong about the war," she'd have had more of a leg to stand on.

    Carrie Prejean didn't say she was ashamed that gays are able to get married in some states. She said it was "great" that people have choices, but she personally didn't believe in same-sex marriage. She also expressed hope that no one would be offended (fat chance). It was her opinion and she's free to express it. Anyone who disagrees with it is also free to do so. But people who cross the line and are personally attacking her for that answer are, I feel, crossing the line.
     
  3. Calvin Hobbes

    Calvin Hobbes Member

    Nothing in the pageant itself. But then there was Hilton calling her names all over the Internet and on television. If he didn't like her answer, whatever. But it's rather despicable to try to squeeze a few more minutes of fame for yourself by insulting the woman publicly afterward.
     
  4. andyouare?

    andyouare? Guest

    Agreed that name calling is over the line, but has anyone ever been to Hilton's site? It's one of my wife's guilty pleasures.

    Anyway, this is a guy who photoshops a white spot under people's mouths to make it look like sperm. He makes a living off of crudely insulting the rich and famous. This is what he does.

    But excuse me if I don't have too much sympathy for Miss Calif. I love the irony that she's upset because she's being judged. Everything about a beauty pageant is being judged. How you walk, your clothes, your hair, your body, your smile, etc. They volunteer themseleves up to be judged by millions of people. But judge her on her words? Oh my! We can't do that.

    Sorry, but I'm pretty sure white, blonde, young pretty women with nice bodies will turn out OK in this society.
     
  5. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Figures on Earth Day you would be against tax credits on electric cars. Shame on you, Earth Defiler! May you never win Miss America!!
     
  6. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    If more things than that would tingle during pageants, they wouldn't be in the shape they're in.

    For me, serious questions during a pageant = droopage.
     
  7. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    Who says she's upset? Last I heard, she said she's happy with what she said and feels sorry for "Perez." She's a better person than I am; he's not worth anyone's pity.
     
  8. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    On the other hand, her feelings seem to echo the beliefs of about 85 percent or so of Americans.
     
  9. Double J

    Double J Active Member

    That's not a good point at all. It's actually the height of disingenuousness. If Miss USA is really supposed to represent all Americans regardless of politics/religion, then the contestants should not be asked questions about politics or religion. Pretty simple, actually.

    And here's another wonderful life lesson - if you don't think you'll be able to handle the answer to a question that you're asking......don't ask it.
     
  10. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    From there, it's just another step or two to running for VP.
     
  11. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Such as?
     
  12. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    You think Miss California was bad? You should have seen the last "Toddlers and Tiaras." One 5-year-old completely blew the question on the correct public health strategies to contain cooties.
     
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