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Unconstitutionalcare

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by CarltonBanks, Aug 12, 2011.

  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Well, they wouldn't tell you what you could or couldn't eat. You'd just pay more in insurance rates for the privilege.

    It's not that big a difference, except that if I have one Big Mac a month, I'm not subsidizing the person who eats there every day.
     
  2. J Staley

    J Staley Member

    I agree with you about people wanting to treat everything with a pill rather than using preventative techniques such as diet and exercise, that is a problem.

    That's why it's important for people to understand, from an early age, the importance of maintaining health -- unless of course it's the government trying to tell you what to do, right?

    I'm healthy and rarely go to the doctor. And I'll admit that it doesn't feel right for me to pay the healthcare costs of those that visit doctors regularly. But if the alternative is having a large group of people that can't reasonably get heath care, I guess I'll pull up my bootstraps.

    The thinking you display in this post is a good example of why I can't relate to Republican logic sometimes. You all love to preach about the virtues of liberty, but it only seems to apply to those that make the "correct" decisions.
     
  3. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Reimbursed at what proper rate? That's circular logic. I get what you're saying, but part of the problem is their rate.

    It's a self-fulfilling system. Charge too much for services, some people can't pay, pass the higher costs on to those who can. Rinse, wash, repeat.

    Maybe, just maybe, they're charging too damn much to begin with.
     
  4. JonnyD

    JonnyD Member

    How is it different. The government is telling people that they *must* buy something from private companies. If the government wants to run health care, the government should run health care. That'd be a great way to solve the problem.

    Funneling this "tax" through corrupt corporations is the worst of all possible solutions. You are right, though: This is a massive tax increase, levied regressively on middle-class Americans who will see their premiums skyrocket, payable directly to private corporations. Remind me again why liberals are excited about it?

    I'm not questioning the legitimacy of the government stepping into the field of health care. I'm questioning the legitimacy of *this* specific plan, which is the most appallingly conservative national health care plan ever taken seriously.
     
  5. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    So, in other words, they're telling you what you eat.

    That's like telling someone in a prison camp, "You're totally free to go at any time you wish, but we'll shoot you if you cross that line. But you are free to go when you want!"
     
  6. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Nothing.
     
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Do you have a citation for that?
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    No one "charges too much" for anything.

    You are not going to change the law of supply-and-demand. It is as true as 2+2=4.
     
  9. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    No they aren't. You can opt out. You just have to then pay the tax penalty.
     
  10. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

    Saw the subject line. Bet myself a million bucks I knew who started the thread. Clicking to see confirmed I won. And lost.
     
  11. JonnyD

    JonnyD Member

    And you can shoot someone in the face, you just have to pay the jail penalty.
     
  12. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member

    Gasoline, utilities, cable.

    Next.
     
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