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Pawlenty drops out of race

deskslave said:
king cranium maximus IV said:
steveu said:
deskslave said:
But, Perry's been in elected office a long time. In no way is he unacceptable.

Aren't these two sentences completely contradictory to a certain segment of the population?

It will be really funny to watch Perry tout his business credentials when he's never held a private-sector job in his life, btw.
I'll still support Perry, but the dirty secret some people don't know is (like Reagan) he used to be a Democrat. That's enough to cause some to keel over in the Republican ranks.

Eh, not buying it. Former-Democratic Republicans aren't uncommon in the South.

True. And they tend to have one thing in common, or at least the older generation did.

Yee-haw.
 
Romney would be a much-tougher opponent for Obama than Perry or anyone else in the GOP field.

Romney has appeal in large parts of the Northeast, the Midwest and the West and can take states Obama won in 2008. The Southern Bubbas won't like him, but they'll hold their noses and vote for him if he's on the general ballot.

Perry doesn't have the same oomph outside of the South. There's a lot of Texas fatigue out there, even still, and Perry is more Texan than W in spades. It's doubtful that Perry will play in Ohio or Michigan or Pennsylvania, all states he will need to make the electoral math work. And if Gov. Goodhair keeps wanting to converse about ending Social Security, Florida goes poof for him too.

The same dynamic that would help Romney and hurt Perry in the general will work in the GOP primary as well. There are 37 states that weren't part of the Confederacy.
 
Football_Bat said:
Romney would be a much-tougher opponent for Obama than Perry or anyone else in the GOP field.

Romney has appeal in large parts of the Northeast, the Midwest and the West and can take states Obama won in 2008. The Southern Bubbas won't like him, but they'll hold their noses and vote for him if he's on the general ballot.

Perry doesn't have the same oomph outside of the South. There's a lot of Texas fatigue out there, even still, and Perry is more Texan than W in spades. It's doubtful that Perry will play in Ohio or Michigan or Pennsylvania, all states he will need to make the electoral math work. And if Gov. Goodhair keeps wanting to converse about ending Social Security, Florida goes poof for him too.

The same dynamic that would help Romney and hurt Perry in the general will work in the GOP primary as well. There are 37 states that weren't part of the Confederacy.

I agree with this. It's not like you get extra credit for really, really winning certain states.
 
imjustagirl said:
If Bachmann wins, I quit at life.

And I'm a Republican. Which really has nothing to do with her and her ilk.

I'm taking sign-ups for those who want to move to Canada in the event of a Bachmann win. For those who feel the same about Palin (if she ever stops this starved for attention bit while everyone else campaigns and officially gets in the race), I'm offering the same deal.
 
Ben_Hecht said:
YankeeFan said:
But, Perry's been in elected office a long time. In no way is he unacceptable.

In Texas, maybe . . . but a healthy portion of the Texas electorate doesn't have much use for the guy, and not only the Dems.

This is an old song . . .PArry will play in Texas (big towns, and small), Denver, Arizona, the Evangelical Midwest (hi, Iowa) and much of the heart o' Dixie. F education, F the middle class, F everybody who's not just like us? He's your guy.

But he makes the Bush/Romney old-time GOP veterans cringe. His nomination would radically energize casual, borderline Dems, who will crawl over ground glass to vote against him.
How can you say this? He's been re-elected twice in Texas.
 
Moderator1 said:
There's news here so we'll let this go a while, so long as it stays civil. We've proven we CAN discuss politics as adults. Sadly, we've proven more times that we can't. So let's prove me wrong on this one. Please.

That said - wake me up in March. What is going on now is like getting jacked up because the Nats are up three on the Phillies in the first inning. LONG way to go and by the time the seventh rolls around, the Phils will be up 10 and nothing that happened two hours ago will matter.

See who's standing in March and let's start the talking. And while I'm a Dem and an Obama supporter, I could be convinced to go another direction. Nothing I've seen thus far has made me even think about it.

Maybe in March. Right now, it's all noise.
I'm amazed at the less than furious fervor behind Obama in some areas of this board as compared to four years ago. And the number of people who have come out and admitted they were Republicans that I wouldn't have bet were. And here I am, a socially-conservative populist.
 
printdust said:
Ben_Hecht said:
YankeeFan said:
But, Perry's been in elected office a long time. In no way is he unacceptable.

In Texas, maybe . . . but a healthy portion of the Texas electorate doesn't have much use for the guy, and not only the Dems.

This is an old song . . .PArry will play in Texas (big towns, and small), Denver, Arizona, the Evangelical Midwest (hi, Iowa) and much of the heart o' Dixie. F education, F the middle class, F everybody who's not just like us? He's your guy.

But he makes the Bush/Romney old-time GOP veterans cringe. His nomination would radically energize casual, borderline Dems, who will crawl over ground glass to vote against him.
How can you say this? He's been re-elected twice in Texas.

Perry benefited a lot in the last election by the straight party ticket, there were plenty of "die-hard" Republicans that didn't really like him, but were too lazy to vote for the "R's" individually.
 
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