RIP Joe Paterno

spikechiquet · Jan 21, 2012

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#CBSSPORTSSAYS is trending on twitter...funny stuff

Starman · Jan 21, 2012

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Considering the vendetta many in the Paterno-supporters camp (not necessarily the "Paterno camp" itself but the extended cult) have developed about the deemon meedia, I wonder if somebody somewhere decided to hoist somebody from a tree by leaking a bullshit rumor.

PCLoadLetter · Jan 21, 2012

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zimbabwe said:

ME at Onward State steps down:

http://www.facebook.com/OnwardState/posts/10150599666855663
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I'll give that kid credit: that's a quality apology. Big time screw up, but he's facing up to it like an adult.

CBSSports.com managers, you're on the clock...

Magnum · Jan 21, 2012

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Starman said:

Hopefully this will shit all over Twitter forever as a "serious" "news" "source."

It's millions of fucking idiots throwing millions of pieces of shit at the wall at the same time.
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This one's not on Twitter. This is all CBSSPORTS.

Chef2 · Jan 21, 2012

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PCLoadLetter said:

zimbabwe said:

ME at Onward State steps down:

http://www.facebook.com/OnwardState/posts/10150599666855663
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I'll give that kid credit: that's a quality apology. Big time screw up, but he's facing up to it like an adult.

CBSSports.com managers, you're on the clock...
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This.

At least he owned up to it. Not blaming someone else for it. (psst....cbs)

Point of Order · Jan 21, 2012

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franklin lincoln said:

You know what bothers me? CBS first tried to pawn of the reporting as its own, by not citing Onward State in its original article and instead only including a hyperlink to Onward State's Tweet over the text of "has died."

Then, when the report was wrong, its reporters try to claim it didn't report Paterno was dead; it reported that <i>Onward State</i> reported that.

“@CBSSports: Joe Paterno has died at the age of 85 - http://bit.ly/JOEPATERNO”

And, utilizing Fair Use, the entire CBS report for you to judge whether CBS cited Onward State:
[quote author=CBS]Joe Paterno, the man who for decades was synonymous with Penn State football and was known by the college football world as just "JoePa", <A HREF="https://twitter.com/OnwardState/">has died</A>. Paterno, 85, had been receiving chemotherapy as part of his treatment for lung cancer, and complications from that treatment claimed the longtime Penn State coach's life on Saturday.

Paterno was the head coach of Penn State for 46 seasons before being fired in November as his role in the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal came under greater scrutiny. Combined with the time he spent as an assistant, Paterno spent a total of 61 years on the Penn State sidelines. He left behind a legacy that, on the field of play, was unparalleled in Division I football. Paterno holds the all-time Division I record for football coaching wins with a 409-136-3 record, and he won two national championships while going undefeated in five different seasons.

Under Paterno, Penn State was a perennial powerhouse, known for decades as "Linebacker U" for its propensity to develop All-American linebackers. Paterno coached such great linebackers as Dennis Onkotz, Jack Ham, Shane Conlan, LaVar Arrington, Paul Posluszny, Dan Connor, and Sean Lee, along with many others.

Additionally, running back John Cappalletti won the Heisman Trophy in 1973 under Paterno, and Cappalletti was one of seven Penn State players to win the Maxwell Award for most outstanding college football player. All in all, 68 players were named first-team All-American by at least one of the major news services under Paterno; 13 of those players were two-year winners.

Paterno's longtime defensive coordinator and the architect of the defensive schemes that came to typify Penn State football was Jerry Sandusky, who's now more well-known for the allegations of underaged sexual abuse against him made by men who were involved in Sandusky's charity, The Second Mile, as boys. Sandusky is still awaiting trial for those allegations, and he pled not guilty to the charges in December 2011.

In an interview with the Washington Post released just a week before Paterno's death, he expressed remorse for not having done more to stop Sandusky's alleged crimes, and he also said he was "just sick about" the situation. Investigators did not bring charges against Paterno, and instead mentioned that he had fulfilled his legal obligations by notifying his superiors about an alleged assault when he was first notified in 2002.

After Paterno was fired in 2011, Penn State named Tom Bradley -- who, coincidentally, was Sandusky's replacement at defensive coordinator -- interim head coach. Bradley went 1-3, including a loss to Houston in the TicketCity Bowl, and was not retained as a coach when Penn State hired Bill O'Brien in January.

Paterno was well known for encouraging his players to excel in the classroom and earn their undergraduate degrees at Penn State, and his name will live on at Penn State after his firing and death. Paterno and his wife Sue were major financial supporters of Penn State University, as they donated millions of dollars for the Paterno Library on campus, and Paterno helped establish the Paterno Liberal Arts Undergraduate Fellows Program.
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Please note that I eliminated all hyperlinks except for the "has died" hyperlink. All text is exactly as it was in the original report.
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That is one of the worst "breaking news" reports I have ever read in my life. No, actually it's a canned obit that states the supposed news (his death) without any details, or attribution. The "news" is he died, and you didn't cite, source, or explain the basis for this "news"? God awful. No blaming anyone else. Someone must be fired.

Boom_70 · Jan 21, 2012

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@TedKoppel Buckwheat is dead

dooley_womack1 · Jan 21, 2012

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PCLoadLetter said:

zimbabwe said:

ME at Onward State steps down:

http://www.facebook.com/OnwardState/posts/10150599666855663
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I'll give that kid credit: that's a quality apology. Big time screw up, but he's facing up to it like an adult.

CBSSports.com managers, you're on the clock...
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So much this. Then again, owning up isn't really part and parcel of the Net.

McCrank · Jan 21, 2012

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dooley_womack1 said:

PCLoadLetter said:

zimbabwe said:

ME at Onward State steps down:

http://www.facebook.com/OnwardState/posts/10150599666855663
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I'll give that kid credit: that's a quality apology. Big time screw up, but he's facing up to it like an adult.

CBSSports.com managers, you're on the clock...
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So much this. Then again, owning up isn't really part and parcel of the Net.
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Owning up isn't part of the media, whether it's print, television, or the scary "internet".

Frank_Ridgeway · Jan 21, 2012

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Poynter (I didn't think they worked weekends):

http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/160270/how-false-reports-of-joe-paternos-death-were-spread-and-debunked/

dooley_womack1 · Jan 21, 2012

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I guarantee a newspaper would run a front-page correction.

maumann · Jan 21, 2012

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It's Journalism 101: Verify. Confirm. Attribute.

If you didn't get it pounded into your brain at the high school paper, you'd better have learned it by college. And if not there, your first paying gig.

One of my first editors put it this way: "Unless he's Lazarus, he'll still be dead tomorrow. Get the facts first."

I don't care if the Penn State online site has been right 100 times out of 100. That's why you have people with phones and a college football beat guy. And you have to ask point-blank, "Where is this coming from? Who is this coming from?"

It's not like we don't deal with this over and over. It's standard operating procedure: Steve Olin and Tim Crews in Florida, Davey Allison at Talladega, Princess Di in Europe.

In each case, we had one semi-credible source but I wasn't confident enough to let it go until I had two confirmed credible sources. I'd rather explain to the managing editor the reasons why we ran the obit a day later than to stand there and explain why we had to retract a story on someone who wasn't dead.

I can't imagine what's happening in Fort Lauderdale right now. Evening shift editor at CBS Sportsline is a "big boy job." There's no excuse for an experienced manager to blow that call.

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