Globe and Mail reports that NHL may be loaning money to Phoenix Coyotes

[Bubbler]

Quebec and either Hamilton or a second Toronto team might be the only viable Canadian markets that are currently untapped. Hamilton is awfully close to both Buffalo and Toronto, and so there's a chance of oversaturating that area to begin with.

I've never understood why Hamilton wouldn't be close enough to be considered a "second Toronto team".

Hamilton is, what, 40 miles from Toronto?

 

[PCLoadLetter]

Quebec and either Hamilton or a second Toronto team might be the only viable Canadian markets that are currently untapped. Hamilton is awfully close to both Buffalo and Toronto, and so there's a chance of oversaturating that area to begin with.

I've never understood why Hamilton wouldn't be close enough to be considered a "second Toronto team".

Hamilton is, what, 40 miles from Toronto?

Agreed. I live in the city of Phoenix. The Phoenix Coyotes play 50 miles from my house.

 

[crimsonace]

There is not one rational Canadian hockey fan that believes Saskatoon is an NHL market, neither is Phoenix or Miami.

Didn't Don Cherry begin Coach's Corner with a shot of the Saskatoon arena and spend half the segment gushing about how they needed a team late last season?

Oh, wait, you said rational Canadian .

To me, it's not about trying to determine what markets are or are not good for hockey. It's this overarching belief among some that Canada as a nation is somehow offended by the fact that there are franchises located in some southern U.S. cities, and there are decent-sized Canadian markets without teams (OK, there is *one* decent-sized Canadian market without a team -- Hamilton has as much claim to the Toronto and Buffalo markets as Long Island would have to New York), and if there aren't at least 9 Canadian teams (and if a Canadian team doesn't win the Stanley Cup), then somehow there has been a terrible international faux pas committed.

Quebec will get its team. Might not happen RIGHT NOW!!! but it'll happen. Hamilton will never happen -- the Sabres won't allow it. Second GTA team won't happen, either, even though Toronto could probably support two.

 

[Bubbler]

How come Montreal is never mentioned as a two-team-per-city candidate? Long live the Maroons!

 

[JC]

There is not one rational Canadian hockey fan that believes Saskatoon is an NHL market, neither is Phoenix or Miami.

Didn't Don Cherry begin Coach's Corner with a shot of the Saskatoon arena and spend half the segment gushing about how they needed a team late last season?

Oh, wait, you said rational Canadian .

To me, it's not about trying to determine what markets are or are not good for hockey. It's this overarching belief among some that Canada as a nation is somehow offended by the fact that there are franchises located in some southern U.S. cities, and there are decent-sized Canadian markets without teams (OK, there is *one* decent-sized Canadian market without a team -- Hamilton has as much claim to the Toronto and Buffalo markets as Long Island would have to New York), and if there aren't at least 9 Canadian teams (and if a Canadian team doesn't win the Stanley Cup), then somehow there has been a terrible international faux pas committed.

Quebec will get its team. Might not happen RIGHT NOW!!! but it'll happen. Hamilton will never happen -- the Sabres won't allow it. Second GTA team won't happen, either, even though Toronto could probably support two.

I disagree, I think eventually a second team in the GTA will happen. There is to much money to be mad for it not to.

Your point about some of the over the top Canadian sentiments to these markets is accurate. There is a frustration level with bettman and his constant bullshirt. It is ok to have tried some of these markets and admit failure, it happens but to keep banging your head against the wall and pretending that somehow it is going to work long term is delusional. This lockout is going to happen because of it and he wants the players to pay for it instead of the other owners. Some of the NHL ills would be cured with a couple relocations and a couple contractions(not realistic). If they can find solid US markets than so be it, but do something.

Although, Saskatoon is not close to an NHL market it would produce more revenue than a handful of markets the NHL is in right now. That is the sad state some of those markets are in.

 

[Double J]

Quebec and either Hamilton or a second Toronto team might be the only viable Canadian markets that are currently untapped. Hamilton is awfully close to both Buffalo and Toronto, and so there's a chance of oversaturating that area to begin with.

I've never understood why Hamilton wouldn't be close enough to be considered a "second Toronto team".

Hamilton is, what, 40 miles from Toronto?

Hamilton has always been a rival of Toronto, never a suburb.

Everything's all kind of merged together now along the shore of Lake Ontario, but it wasn't too long ago there was pretty much nothing but farmland and a few small towns in that 40-mile stretch between the two cities.

 

[Stitch]

There won't be a referendum in Glendale on the new Coyotes lease.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/glendale/articles/2012/07/24/20120724phoenix-coyotes-public-wont-weigh-deal.html

Goldwater Institute still yammering on the deal. Find it interesting the wife of the Diamondbacks' owner is on Goldwater's board. I guess "Less government help for thee, more for me" is a rule she lives by.

 

[Johnny Chase]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=414913

Jamison doesn't have the money to buy the team, and his sweetheart deal with Glendale is going to run out. After about four years of nonsense, it looks like this saga is finally finish.

Only question is whether the team winds up in Quebec City or Seattle.

 

[Football_Bat]

My guess is Seattle only happens if the Sacramento Kings sale goes through and they can piggyback on the arena deal.

Do the Coyotes have to vacate Glendale immediately or do they have a certain grace period?

 

[Armchair_QB]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gzuK9jsKG-g/RxiNKsiSnzI/AAAAAAAAC44/jP_pPjIsY8o/s400/aww_shirt.jpg

 

[Machine Head]

Spurned by Winnipeg, still looking for a home:

 

[Armchair_QB]

Saskatoon or bust!