FROM 2012 INTO 2013 POLITICS THREAD

Azrael · Feb 11, 2013

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3_Octave_Fart said:

What was the best model of a national savings incentive?
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WW II.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Us_savings_rate_history.jpg

cranberry · Feb 11, 2013

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Azrael said:

3_Octave_Fart said:

What was the best model of a national savings incentive?
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WW II.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Us_savings_rate_history.jpg
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Does this include 401-K savings? It looks like savings have gone down since the introduction of 401-K accounts.

Inky_Wretch · Feb 11, 2013

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GeorgeFHayek · Feb 11, 2013

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cranberry said:

Azrael said:

3_Octave_Fart said:

What was the best model of a national savings incentive?
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WW II.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Us_savings_rate_history.jpg
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Does this include 401-K savings? It looks like savings have gone down since the introduction of 401-K accounts.
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401K, IRA et al. are taken into account re: the national savings rate.

3_Octave_Fart · Feb 11, 2013

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Azrael said:

3_Octave_Fart said:

What was the best model of a national savings incentive?
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WW II.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Us_savings_rate_history.jpg
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Notice the precipitous tumble since the S&L crisis.

dog eat dog world · Feb 11, 2013

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Baron Scicluna said:

dog eat dog world said:

Huckabee tonight has Pattie Mallette, the mother of Justin Bieber, who is talking about her film she made on raising funds for crisis pregnancy alternatives to spitting out the fetus at a killer clinic. She got that kind of encouragement, you see, to allow a pop star to breathe a breath. Thank God some liberal wasn't telling her she needed to think about herself and not her child. And, she said that there have been some media making up stories that her son isn't for her stance. Figures.
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We have to thank God for Justin Bieber?
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I'd preferred Carrie Underwood instead of Justin, but I was speaking for my daughter at the time, a Bieber fan, getting caught up in the Bieber thing.

3_Octave_Fart · Feb 11, 2013

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It's very difficult for Obama's lollipop guild to concede that Bush policy might have had a pragmatic foundation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/world/obamas-turn-in-bushs-bind-with-defense-policies.html?_r=0

If President Obama tuned in to the past week's bracing debate on Capitol Hill about terrorism, executive power, secrecy and due process, he might have recognized the arguments his critics were making: He once made some of them himself.

Four years into his tenure, the onetime critic of President George W. Bush finds himself cast as a present-day Mr. Bush, justifying the muscular application of force in the defense of the nation while detractors complain that he has sacrificed the country's core values in the name of security.
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cranberry · Feb 11, 2013

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3_Octave_Fart said:

It's very difficult for Obama's lollipop guild to concede that Bush policy might have had a pragmatic foundation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/world/obamas-turn-in-bushs-bind-with-defense-policies.html?_r=0

If President Obama tuned in to the past week's bracing debate on Capitol Hill about terrorism, executive power, secrecy and due process, he might have recognized the arguments his critics were making: He once made some of them himself.

Four years into his tenure, the onetime critic of President George W. Bush finds himself cast as a present-day Mr. Bush, justifying the muscular application of force in the defense of the nation while detractors complain that he has sacrificed the country's core values in the name of security.
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“I’d argue the shift to more targeted action against A. Q. has been a hallmark of Obama’s approach against terrorism, whereas Iraq was Bush’s signature decision in his global war on terror,” said Benjamin J. Rhodes, a deputy national security adviser to Mr. Obama, using the initials for Al Qaeda.
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Starman · Dec 15, 2014

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Gee whiz, Obama adopting Bush policies blows up and bites him in the ass. Who could have foreseen such a thing.

It's certainly great he continues to adopt GOP policies and nominating GOPs to open positions. It is building up mountains of goodwill and crossover support from the GOP.

Norrin Radd · Feb 11, 2013

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cranberry said:

3_Octave_Fart said:

It's very difficult for Obama's lollipop guild to concede that Bush policy might have had a pragmatic foundation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/world/obamas-turn-in-bushs-bind-with-defense-policies.html?_r=0

If President Obama tuned in to the past week's bracing debate on Capitol Hill about terrorism, executive power, secrecy and due process, he might have recognized the arguments his critics were making: He once made some of them himself.

Four years into his tenure, the onetime critic of President George W. Bush finds himself cast as a present-day Mr. Bush, justifying the muscular application of force in the defense of the nation while detractors complain that he has sacrificed the country's core values in the name of security.
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“I’d argue the shift to more targeted action against A. Q. has been a hallmark of Obama’s approach against terrorism, whereas Iraq was Bush’s signature decision in his global war on terror,” said Benjamin J. Rhodes, a deputy national security adviser to Mr. Obama, using the initials for Al Qaeda.
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"An Obama advisor thinks these policies are bitchin'"

3_Octave_Fart · Feb 12, 2013

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Rhodes is a 35-year-old former speech writer with a master's degree in fiction writing.
Not exactly McGeorge Bundy or Henry Kissinger, here.

dooley_womack1 · Feb 12, 2013

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Can't believe we haven't had anything about the Texas Congressman who's inviting Ted Nugent to the State of the Union. “I am excited to have a patriot like Ted Nugent joining me in the House Chamber to hear from President Obama,” Steve Stockman said in a statement. Yeah, threatening armed action against a president you disagree with is what I'm sure the founding fathers meant by "patriotic."

The link: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ted-nugent-gop-lawmaker-state-union-guest-193701665--politics.html

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