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Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Aug 22, 2014.

  1. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

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  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    All right, I'm confused -- why does the table of real incomes show flat?
     
  3. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    One's inflation adjusted and one isn't?
     
  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Both are labeled inflation-adjusted.
     
  5. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Boy, that's rich ...

    I'm holding my statistical skills hostage ('round here) until certain posters agree to abandon certain word usages that any decent person would find abhorrent.

    That's how I understand it: The U.S. is relatively low in inter-generational income mobility. But "relatively low" is not the same as "completely lacking."

    But here's a non-trivial fact: U.S. inter-generational income mobility has been largely constant since 1964. And while it is true, on average, that blacks and Hispanics exhibit less mobility, when geography is controlled for these racial differences all but disappear.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Of course they are abhorrent.

    But I'm not letting this country off the hook for centuries of institutionalized discrimination by sugarcoating its notions on the matter.
     
  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    It's really confusing, I admit. But then again, it's not my chart.
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Thank you!

    Have tried to make this point 100 times.

    It's like a saying the bottom 20% of major leaguers have shitty batting averages.

    Lots of people in their first jobs are in the bottom 20%. Of course they don't have a lot of money.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I'm happy to stipulate that policy failure is responsible for whatever percentage of the problem you say it is, as long as I don't have to accept your definition of what the policy failure is.

    As I've tried to point out, not every African-American is poor, and not every poor person in America is African-American. So, I certainly don;t think the problem is shiftless niggers or inferior DNA. (And, honestly, I don't know anyone with standing in the republican/conservative movement who believes this.)

    (And, to go further, if we are going to accuse anyone of acting in this way -- regardless of what they say -- I would say it's the folks who make excuses for why poor, urban, African-Americans CAN NOT be successful, nor can their kids, or even grand kids. If you tell people they can not succeed, they won't.)

    We currently subsidize poverty. Is there any question why it persists. We've institutionalized it.

    Forget for a second the Indian, Pakistani, Korean, and Chinese immigrant success for a second. Forget the success of the decedents of Holocaust survivors.

    Let's look at the success of the children of illegal Mexican/Central American immigrants.

    Many of the social programs are not available to them. And, they certainly come from generations of poverty.

    Are they doing better than poor, urban African-Americans and poor, rural whites?
     
  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    More evidence that teachers aren't the problem.

    They're almost all great:

     
  11. BenPoquette

    BenPoquette Active Member

    Can we stop using the N-word to make our point? I don't care about the context...just stop.
     
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Why?
     
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