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E-Bola

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doctorquant said:
YankeeFan said:
And, btw, I sure as heck wouldn't want to be the 11th person to be diagnosed with Ebola, and learn that the 10 beds that can successfully treat me are all full.
I think you're on the wrong track there. Rooms/beds can be created/converted. Pretty sure an operating room would be a reasonably safe place to care for an infected patient.

OK. But then we're down one OR.

Which still means that only a few cases can start overwhelming our system.

And, if these 13 doctors who merely flew with a non-symptomatic patient have to be isolated for 21 days, what happens to all the healthcare workers who are treating Ebola patients? Are we going to let them continue to treat other patients if this thing starts to spread?
 
YankeeFan said:
Baron Scicluna said:
Actually, he canceled his appearances for today.

Yeah, he's clearly taking this seriously.

The storming of our Consulate in Benghazi, and the murder of our Ambassador, Christopher Stevens, didn't cause him to cancel a fundraising trip to Las Vegas.

And, the beheading of James "Jim" Foley didn't cause him to cancel his golf game.

This is unprecedented.

Benghazi.
 
YankeeFan said:
Baron Scicluna said:
Actually, he canceled his appearances for today.

Yeah, he's clearly taking this seriously.

The storming of our Consulate in Benghazi, and the murder of our Ambassador, Christopher Stevens, didn't cause him to cancel a fundraising trip to Las Vegas.

And, the beheading of James "Jim" Foley didn't cause him to cancel his golf game.

This is unprecedented.

You know, these fundraising trips could be stopped, or at least cut down a lot, if certain people stopped believing that bribing politicians is free speech and put in a Constitutional amendment to limit the amount of money one could raise and spend on a race.

As for the golf game, I seem to recall a certain president imploring the media to not take pictures of flag-draped coffins from a war that he started, then telling them to watch his next drive.
 
YankeeFan said:
Baron Scicluna said:
5,000 cases in a city of 50,000 would shut the city down.

Um, OK. Is that a reasonable concern?

It would be to that city and the outlying areas.

Here's a story that says the flu costs businesses $10 billion a year.

http://www.occupationalhealthwellness.com/press-room/flu-cost-us-businesses-10-billion-annually-companies-look-ways-fight-back
 
Who's in charge of the government's response to Ebola:

Q Josh, getting back to Lisa Monaco. You said she's overseeing the federal response on Ebola --

MR. EARNEST: Well, again, I hate to be nitpicky here, but what she's really doing is she's coordinating the activities of all the government agencies who are themselves responsible for responding to specific areas of their own expertise. So she's not overseeing --

Q So who's in charge? Who's in charge?

MR. EARNEST: Well, she's not overseeing the construction of Ebola transmission units in West Africa. The Department of Defense is responsible for that.

Q I understand that, but who is in charge of --

MR. EARNEST: She's not responsible for coordinating --

Q -- who is in charge of the overall response?

MR. EARNEST: She's not responsible for coordinating the activities of the international community as they interact with local governments in West Africa. USAID is involved in that effort. They have an area of expertise.

Q You understand my question --

MR. EARNEST: She's not diagnosing people in the field. So the point is --

Q I get you're interrupting me because you feel like you have a point to make. But you understand my question.

MR. EARNEST: Well, I think the point that I have to make is directly relevant --

Q You seem to be reluctant to say who's in charge of the federal response to Ebola.

MR. EARNEST: Jim, I think that I'm reciting very clearly to you who specifically is responsible for which activities when it comes to this government's tenacious response to Ebola. And that is the Department of Defense who is responsible for putting in place the logistical capacity in West Africa. That's USAID that's trying to meet the needs of communities in West Africa so that we can stop this outbreak at the source. We see CDC lending their expertise to West Africa to help local governments mobilize the resources that they need to stop this outbreak. You've seen the Department of Homeland Security play their role in ensuring the safety of the American public, whether that's people traveling across the globe, or individuals who are attempting to enter this country. You have the responsibility of HHS and CDC who are responsible for working with hospitals and doctors all across the country to treat Ebola patients if they materialize at their medical facilities. So --

Q There's not one person in charge?

MR. EARNEST: I think that there are individuals who are --

Q Or is that the President?

MR. EARNEST: There are individuals who are directly responsible for their line of responsibility. And you have an individual here at the White House who is responsible for coordinating the actions of those government agencies to make sure that they are properly integrated. I think that is a completely reasonable management structure. And if it is determined that additional resources are needed to manage this response, then we won't hesitate to add them.

Q The only reason why I ask is because Lisa Monaco is also the Counterterrorism and Homeland Security Advisor. With the threat posed by ISIS and various other terrorist groups around the world, it seems like she has a lot on her plate right now.

MR. EARNEST: She does have a lot on her plate.

Q She can do that and Ebola?

MR. EARNEST: She is a highly capable individual who can fulfill her responsibilities in terms of coordinating the government's response, the government agencies' response to this Ebola situation, while at the same time ensuring that she is playing the role that she plays in protecting our homeland.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/10/15/press-briefing-press-secretary-10152014
 
The Dallas hospital has officially given up.

First nurse to become infected is being transferred to the NIH in Bethesda, MD.
 
YankeeFan said:
Baron Scicluna said:
Actually, he canceled his appearances for today.

Yeah, he's clearly taking this seriously.

The storming of our Consulate in Benghazi, and the murder of our Ambassador, Christopher Stevens, didn't cause him to cancel a fundraising trip to Las Vegas.

And, the beheading of James "Jim" Foley didn't cause him to cancel his golf game.

This is unprecedented.

As of August 8, the last date I could easily Google up, the vacation day count was that Obama had spent 125 full or partial days on vacation, and at the same point in Bush's presidency, he had spent 381 days at his Texas ranch plus 26 days at his parents' home in Kennebunkport, Maine, for a total of 407.

I'm sure that cutting brush is more Presidentially productive than playing golf... but then GWB did that too.

Shrug.
 
The president appointed a Brownie-like hack to run the CDC because of the doctor's temporary success in getting Big Gulp sodas banned in New York City for former Mayor Bloomberg.
Hope and change.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/14/nyregion/gladly-taking-the-blame-for-health-in-the-city.html?pagewanted=2
 
Neutral Corner said:
As of August 8, the last date I could easily Google up, the vacation day count was that Obama had spent 125 full or partial days on vacation, and at the same point in Bush's presidency, he had spent 381 days at his Texas ranch plus 26 days at his parents' home in Kennebunkport, Maine, for a total of 407.

I'm sure that cutting brush is more Presidentially productive than playing golf... but then GWB did that too.

GWB was the worst President in American history, and the dumbest man ever elected to the office.

Why would we ever compare our current President -- the smartest mad ever elected to the office -- to GWB.

When a Hall of Famer has a bad game, we don't defend him by saying he's no different that the worst player in the league.
 
3_Octave_Fart said:
The president appointed a Brownie-like hack to run the CDC because of the doctor's temporary success in getting Big Gulp sodas banned in New York City for former Mayor Bloomberg.
Hope and change.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/14/nyregion/gladly-taking-the-blame-for-health-in-the-city.html?pagewanted=2

But, he's doing a heck of a job.
 
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