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Stoney's He-Man Steeler Haters NFL Playoff Thread ... No Yinzers allowed

Could be all of them.

Most likely.

Still, in the end the defense is going to be what sinks them. They've been noble in faking it all year, and they're better than we all thought going into the season, but the playoffs (and a great offense) expose units like this.
 
Teams also barely ran the ball against them because they were either down by so many points that they were throwing on almost every play or they were trying to match the pace of Rodgers. The Pats ran the ball 13 times against them. The Falcons ran it 18 times. The second time they played the Bears, they only ran it 19 times.

The only backs they faced who had good years were Lynch and Forte. Lynch demolished them. Forte did well against them the first time, but didn't do much the second time.

As I've heard many time on Passover: Why is this night different than all other nights?

Is the Cowboys' defense good enough that they won't have to chase the game?

As far as Lynch and Forte first time/second time, what changed in the second half of the season? Green Bay moved Matthews into the middle and changed its defensive philosophy to emphasize stopping the run. Their defense improved markedly from midseason on.
 
That's a very fair point.

If you watched the Packers-Lions game, Rodgers barely dropped back at all, presumably because of the calf. He wasn't doing it early in the game even before he went out for the one series.

If Rodgers is healthy, the Packers should kill them. But every sign is that he's not and I'm not sure they can beat the Cowboys if they have to play the kind of game they did against the Lions. If Dallas has to chase the game, Green Bay will likely win, but if it's a ground and pound game where we're seeing a lot of Murray from the Cowboys and Lacy and Starks from the Packers, that will favor Dallas.
 
Well, duh... :D

I was specifically responding to Exmediahack's assertion that:
Rodgers is in a tough spot because, from September to November, he is like a sprinter. Then, on home games from December on, he has to switch to becoming a tough mudder. I think Green Bay will have an awful time of it each year Rodgers is running this offense.
 
McCarthy won't have his job in jeopardy but a loss against Dallas will be his fourth home playoff loss (and third for Rodgers).

That's a high number and I've noted on here I consider a home playoff loss a "cardinal sin" when assessing the career of a head coach or a quarterback.

Look at the three home playoff losses - 2007 NFC Title Game (Giants - the Plaxico Game), 2011 Div Round (Giants), 2013 WC Round (49ers). All really awful weather and one where the winner had a bruising running game in horrific conditions. Green Bay didn't have any of that. The 2010 NFC Title Game in Chicago was played in similar conditions. Green Bay runs no-huddle to start, jumps to a 14-0 lead and then McCarthy hits the breaks. They needed the Raji INT for a TD to clinch it against... Caleb Hanie.

This is what concerns me - Green Bay's historical inability, under McCarthy, to switch from their "dome team" offense to a plan that wins in the post-season. If Green Bay was on the road at Carolina, Arizona or Detroit, I'd feel great about their chances this weekend. Much better than I do when they're home against Dallas when the wind chill will be around zero. Just look at 2010's playoff run. Rodgers lit it up in Atlanta and the SB in Dallas. He merely hung on against Vick in Philly and Cutler/Hanie in Chicago. Radically different offenses.

When McCarthy signed his extension, I don't think there was elation with fans, probably more of a sense of, "well, okay." He seems to have given more control over to Rodgers on late-game decisions and this is a prudent move. Far too often, McCarthy would force the run while leading late, getting stuffed, punting and other team regaining the lead late - forcing Rodgers to try and lead a comeback (hence, Rodgers' awful 4th quarter comeback record). I thought this would be the year the Bears would step up and Rodgers & McCarthy would finally have their big breakup on the sideline. Didn't happen. They actually seem to be getting along this year. Having Cutler on your rival and Caldwell coaching another helps any QB-coach marriage.

While in Green Bay, Holmgren only had three home playoff games and won them all in a fairly convincing manner -- his undoing was the three straight road losses in the playoffs at Dallas - a far more talented team from to 1993 to 1995. Note: Holmgren coached the Packers to three groundbreaking road playoff wins as well (1993 Detroit, 1995 and 1997 SF).

Once the Wolf/Holmgren building of the Packers was complete by off-season 1995-96, they had assembled an All-Star crew of locker room personalities. That '96 team was the first I ever covered as a professional. Favre, Chmura, Keith Jackson, Andre Rison (late season addition), Reggie White, Leroy Butler, Eugene Robinson and... Jim McMahon. (One note on McMahon. He was the cranky uncle the entire year, refusing to talk to media except for once in Week 17. He talked for 20 minutes by his locker and he was hilarious, glib, vulgar. He filled up our sportscasts for a week with his sound bites during a slow time.)

That 1996 locker room policed itself -- anyone could have won with that team.

That loss in Super Bowl 32 (San Diego to Elway's Broncos) took the Packers organization a decade to get over. They were 14 point favorites and assumed they'd romp to a repeat. It didn't happen. The next year was like the last hour of Boogie Nights. They knew the best days were gone, the window had closed. Favre had more influence (which wasn't good), the older leaders left or got hurt, Holmgren was plotting his next move. I always contend it's too bad GB didn't win that second SB in 1997. Holmgren would have been lionized in Green Bay. Favre probably retires five years before he did, sparing us the annual Kiln drama.

I like Dallas to win this weekend. They'll be loose. Garrett will take the chances that McCarthy will freeze up on. You'll know, on the first offensive series, if Green Bay will lay an egg or not. If timing is off (wind?) between Rodgers and the receivers, they'll try to overcompensate and Dallas will probably win. Simple as that.
Not sure I consider a 12-4 team beating an 8-7-1 team to be a bad home playoff loss. Truth be told, it shouldn't have even been a home game. Yes, Rodgers was back, but in just his second week after missing just short of two months.
 
It is pretty amazing. McCarthy was a good coordinator in New Orleans and he did an OK job in San Francisco, and then he inherited two HOF QBs in his first HC job. Granted, Favre was on his way out, and McCarthy does deserve credit for Rodgers becoming what he now is, but he did hit the lottery when he got the Packers job. He's also been smart enough not to pish off the higher-ups as so many coaches seem to do after they get to, or win a SB.
Let's not forget that the team he inherited -- even with Favre -- was 3-12 the previous season before winning the finale in which the Seahawks rested all their starters. The next season the Packers were 4-8 before winning their final four games. A year later they went 13-3. He didn't inherit a juggernaut and just ride it out.
 
Let's not forget that the team he inherited -- even with Favre -- was 3-12 the previous season before winning the finale in which the Seahawks rested all their starters. The next season the Packers were 4-8 before winning their final four games. A year later they went 13-3. He didn't inherit a juggernaut and just ride it out.

True. And he was able to coax a better season out of Favre (2007) than anyone had since his MVP seasons.
 
Teams also barely ran the ball against them because they were either down by so many points that they were throwing on almost every play or they were trying to match the pace of Rodgers. The Pats ran the ball 13 times against them. The Falcons ran it 18 times. The second time they played the Bears, they only ran it 19 times.

The only backs they faced who had good years were Lynch and Forte. Lynch demolished them. Forte did well against them the first time, but didn't do much the second time.
The Bears ran for 235 yards in a game they lost 38-17. I was thinking in the fourth quarter that the Packers didn't really care if the rushing numbers got big as long as the clock kept running.

From that game on, the narrative the rest of the season was that the Packers couldn't stop the run. Even when they did consistently over the last eight games.
 
No, the Bears ran very well in that game. They were looking pretty good until Cutler threw two interceptions on first down in the third quarter. But Forte had almost 100 yards in the first half that day, and the Bears led until the final minute of the first half.

I expect the Cowboys to run pretty well.
 

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