Baltimore

Police, teachers, citizens, etc. would all benefit from competent political leadership. But political leadership is an oxymoron these days.

 

It's not like he dropped a bomb on a building like one of his predecessors.

 

From a privately-owned security camera. Holy shit, does that make it seem like the police are hiding something. Under what circumstances would that not be included in the original timeline? Whoopsie!

 

Hey! That wasn't the police chief.

In Philly, we only let our mayors bomb our buildings.

 

So Los Angeles wasn't under BW during the time of the major decrease in violent crime. They implemented it in 2003 but opinions on how much it was implemented seem to differ since they were opperating under the consent decree at the time. San Diego never used broken windows.
Dallas didn't use broken windows during 94-03 (and as far as I can tell, never used it).
I can't find evidence of Chicago using broken windows during the major 94-03 reduction in crime.
I can't find evidence of Philadelphia police adopting broken windows during this time.


As far as compstat, to me Compstat doesn't = broken windows. You can use compstat without putting more focus on petty crimes.

I'll add: I may have missed things - I had very finite time to look, so that's why I said "can't find evidence" I don't mean to rule it out.

 

They didn't "use broken windows"? Really? Because they didn't call it that?

They didn't change how they handled enforcement of minor crimes at all?

So, what. did they just keep policing the same way, and crime just dropped?

Just because they didn't put out a press release saying they weren't implementing "broken windows" doesn't mean they didn't change how they operated.

 

Turnstile jumping is an actual violation. However in Baltimore and other cities, police routinely invent a reason to stop minorities. So there's that.

 

Has anyone voiced support for that?

 

There were specific references to Los Angeles and San Diego not using broken windows theory during that time period, so that's why I called them out. San Diego, for example, focused on underlying causes of minor offenses (like inadequate lighting) instead of arresting people.
Dallas in 2003 had a reference to switching to broken windows theory (as far as I can tell, they never did), implying they didn't use it before.
Chicago and Philadelphia had nothing that could lead me to a good indication of policing policy during those times. But no references to broken window theory.
And again I admit my time is limited to search for these.
And again violent crime reduction was a nationwide trend. And there's no evidence that broken window theory was a nationwide trend.

 

I think a lot of people support the "law and order, get tough on crime mentality" as long as they aren't the ones people pulled over or frisked for no reason.

I am sure some black kids in front of the 7-11 probably committed or were about to commit a crime. So better safe than sorry. A night or two in jail will keep the streets safe and make the crime stats look super.

So, yeah, a lot of people have supported it or don't complain about it.

 

So what should be done? Other than arresting more white people?

 

I would start with arresting every newspaper executive who makes more than $2 million a year and whose company laid off employees. That should be a freaking crime.