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L.A. raises minimum wage to $15/hr

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by LongTimeListener, May 19, 2015.

  1. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I really want to move to either Baronlandia or Starmanistan. Imagine, a world without tradeoffs!
     
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  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Except the tradeoffs keep having worse results.
     
  3. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Not for Tribune Co.'s papers. That is the discussion at hand. Whether THIS PARTICULAR DECISION was a good or bad business decision for THESE PARTICULAR PAPERS. I say it was a good one. That doesn't mean that every decision they've made has been good. Many have been horrendous. But THIS is an example of a good business decision, a tradeoff that was well worth the tremendous amount of man hours saved.

    Other papers' mileage may vary.

    You're sports editor of a 40,000 daily with a set budget. Are you going to send someone to Wimbledon or rely on the one voice of AP? Is sending someone there to provide a "different writing style" or finding "different angles to stories" worth the tradeoff that will come with blowing your entire year's budget?
     
  4. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Oh, sorry. I wasn't aware that the parameters of the discussion were limited to one company. Shame on me for mistaking that the discussion was about the entire industry.

    And how any 40K papers were sending anyone to Wimbledon when times were good, unless they had someone from the area in the tournament? I'm referring more towards big-city dailies.
     
  5. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Big firms don't encounter tradeoffs ...
     
  6. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    The example I cited and that you responded to --- and kept responding to --- were about one company and whether it made a good business decision. I clearly stated that "other papers' mileage may vary."

    I said 600 papers often use the same AP story. You said that was a bad idea. I have zero doubt that at least 600 papers use AP Wimbledon stories. Is that bad or good? If it's good, then why are we debating? If it's bad, then who should be going across the pond that is not?
     
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  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    You didn't state "other papers' mileage may vary" until the fifth of your six current posts. You made four previous posts in which, while you used Tribune as an example, you never said that you were limiting your discussion to just the one company.

    I would be fine if five papers, perhaps, plus the AP sent writers over to Wimbledon. Figure the New York Times, Washington Post, USA Today, perhaps a California paper, and maybe another one. Of course, that would mean that the other papers would have to subscribe to the others' services, but, depending on the paper's reach, it might be a good thing. The Podunk Times should be happy with AP. The Chicago Tribune, if they don't want to send someone, should have more than one wire service.
     
  8. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Your FIRST response to my Tribune example reads as follows (boldface added for emphasis):

    I directly answered your question "for my own example" and thus made an argument that the company made a wise business decision. You continued to argue this simple premise, which is why this has dragged on and on and on.
     
  9. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    But you are the one who is trying to limit the discussion to your one example. Are you saying that other examples may not apply to the argument that you are trying to make?
     
  10. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    I'm saying that all businesses look for redundancies and inefficiencies and try to eliminate them. This is almost always a good thing ---- business-wise --- and does not compromise the product and make the businesses evil just because it almost always results in layoffs. Businesses that go beyond this --- slashing costs by eliminating coverage or services --- do compromise their product.

    Newspapers have gone both routes. I only find fault with the latter.
     
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  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Bernie is refreshingly honest. Most liberals are unwilling to admit that they are willing to accept a slower economy, if it means things will be more "fair":

    Every candidate in the 2016 presidential race talks about responding to income inequality and stagnant middle class wages. No one else talks about it like Bernie Sanders.

    The self-described socialist senator from Vermont wants to reverse the "massive transfer of wealth from the middle class to the top one-tenth of 1 percent." The 90 percent top income tax rates America had during the 1950s might not be too high, he said.

    He wants big Wall Street banks broken up. He's willing to accept slower economic growth in return for what he'd consider a more equitable distribution of income.


    Bernie Sanders questions morality of US economy

    Talk about a race to the bottom.
     
  12. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    When 90+ percent of the population isn't participating in the economic growth, can we really consider it a race?
     
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