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More Cuts at ESPN

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Doc Holliday, Mar 7, 2017.

  1. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Anybody making that argument is an idiot. ESPN is not struggling because of its political bent (to the degree that it has one; I don't watch enough to know). ESPN/Disney (and others) are locked into expensive rights deals that are only feasible if enough households subscribe to cable (or similar). Up until very recently, the numbers were there. Now, they're not there, and they're getting worse.
     
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  2. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    And if Clay is going to wave the "liberal political views are killing ESPN" flag, then how does he explain FS1's decline? Because it's losing viewers just as - if not more - rapidly than ESPN.
     
  3. GBNF

    GBNF Well-Known Member

    You actually think that is the reason for this cost-cutting, and not the shifting industry and media landscape and rights contracts?
     
  4. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Not even remotely. That is the argument Clay Travis is making. Clay Travis is a moron. Still, an army of idiots is parroting that argument online.
     
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  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    ESPN is facing the same situation newspapers did 10 years ago -- the delivery model changed in ways they didn't foresee (and maybe couldn't have foreseen, that's a matter of long debate).

    The trolls who populate the comments section of every newspaper article aren't right about liberal bias destroying the news industry either.

    Travis is a race-baiting and misogynist click whore, so I understand him selling that fertilizer, but anyone who buys it is too stupid to bother listening to.
     
  6. GBNF

    GBNF Well-Known Member

    Yes but just because an army of idiots pushes an argument doesn't make it a successful one.
     
  7. Gutter

    Gutter Well-Known Member

  8. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    You know who else has a lot of stupid and incorrect ideas? Our stinkin president. He's still the president.

    Now, to be clear - ESPN is remarkably liberal. Like most national news orgs, it probably long has been. But that liberal bent doesn't relate to losing subscribers. That's just cord-cutting.
     
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  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Success is not a moral event. Johnny Cochran successfully defended OJ Simpson. Trump successfully won the presidential election.
     
  10. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Sure it is. His goal is to trash ESPN and make people think it's a terrible, terrible group of scheming liberals.

    A huge number of idiots now believes that. He's succeeded in doing exactly what he wanted to do.
     
  11. GBNF

    GBNF Well-Known Member

    Those steaming morons believed it long before Clay Travis and long after him.
     
  12. Ed Werder is out. Along with a lot of others... Are any of the layoffs athletes-turned-broadcasters?
    The list I've seen today are real reporters and broadcasters.
     
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