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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Well, FWIW, this guy says that Bannon was surprised:

    Steve Bannon thought he wasn't giving an interview
     
  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Eh, that's cover for him.

    He knew.
     
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  3. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Bannon just thought he was "leaking" not speaking. Honestly, what is the point of having a Comms Director, except to have someone to fire when someone says something anonymously.
     
  4. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I also think the "leak" was Bannon saving his job. Hell, doesn't sound like it was that long of a conversation, but a) it drew attention away from Charlottesville b) put the focus on China/North Korea (highlighting Kim's concession) c) distanced Bannon (and Trump) from the Nazis with the dismissive remarks d) will probably keep Bannon in the West Wing for the foreseeable future. It was just crass enough to be seen as a gaffe and become "a thing", not too crass to cost him his job. Pretty brilliant move.
     
  5. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    After LBJ signed a bunch of civil rights laws, Republicans won five out of the next six elections and would have run the table if Nixon hadn't been a dumbass running up the score with Watergate. But I'm glad Johnson sacked up and did the right thing, plus wasn't scared to talk about it. At a certain point if we're too scared to talk about what is clearly right and wrong, then we're a shit country and deserve to fall.
     
  6. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Mostly on target but I don't think the GOP holds onto the White House in '76, even if Watergate never happens. The GOP certainly didn't have any heir-apparent figure waiting in the wings after Nixon.

    Pretty much everybody considered Spiro Agnew a complete boob, definitely including Nixon, who had quite pointedly avoided allowing Agnew to do anything that might have established him as a successor.
     
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  7. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Reagan gave Ford a helluva scare in 76. Maybe he wins, moves everything up four years, then leaves town at the beginning of 85 with his mind mostly intact.
     
  8. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Maybe, maybe not. Ford was running damaged from the get-go in '76, due to the pardon of Nixon, which allowed both Reagan in the primaries, then Carter in the general, to attack Ford as tainted by Nixon's corruption.

    Without the Watergate scandal, Reagan probably can't make as much hay running against the "corrupt Washington machine."
     
  9. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

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  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I posted something along these lines earlier, but I really do believe Bannon about the white nationalists. I think he has a really particularized vision that dumb racists pick up and run with because it doesn't translate well to the masses. One of the people who is too stupid to process and articulate it is the President.
     
  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    What is Axios? This is the second day in a row I have seen that site linked.
     
  12. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member




    The ride never ends.
     
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