President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

PCLoadLetter · Sep 29, 2017

cranberry said: ↑

So fuck off, because you're not smart enough or entertaining enough to take up Old Tony's role on the board.
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That's saying something.

Dick Whitman · Sep 29, 2017

cranberry said: ↑

Are you really this dumb? It was a stupid meme of a "point" because the reporters aren't the mostly black athletes using their prominence and platform to make a public statement. National TV audiences aren't watching reporters and newspapers aren't quoting them. It means little, if anything, to the general public what a reporter does. They're reporting. Importantly, and perhaps you don't grasp this, it would be unethical to take a "side" while reporting an event.

And even if some bonehead thought he was obligated to take a knee and risk getting mustard on his khakis in the damn press box, reporters, unlike professional athletes, aren't so valuable to their employers that they wouldn't be subject to being (justifiably) fired for protesting, so it would also carry a much higher risk in terms of livelihood.

With that said, most of the columnists I've read have come out in support of the athletes' right to protest. As for me, I'm writing stuff in support of them daily.

So fuck off, because you're not smart enough or entertaining enough to take up Old Tony's role on the board.
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I don't think Tony was fighting off Mensa, either.

RickStain · Sep 29, 2017

Come in guns blazing, then complain about a "classy" response. Way too edgy for us, man.

YankeeFan · Sep 29, 2017

poindexter said: ↑

I don't give a shit if they kneel, sit, or stand on their dicks during the national anthem. Zero fucks given by me.
Next game I go to, I will stand during the anthem. The instrument has yet to be invented which can measure my indifference to what they do on the sideline, as long as the kickoff starts at 1:05 p.m.
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Just give me my gladiator games!

service_gamer · Sep 29, 2017

The Big Ragu said: ↑

Why is it so important that people have "respect" for our country? I mean, what does that even mean? Why do I have to respect my country? What if my country lets me down?

That is blind patriotism; and how many shitty things has that led to? I'd rather acknowledge my country for what it is -- the good and the bad. It's honest. It also gives me room me to continually try to make my country a better place.

Even if we establish that respecting the country is some kind of virtue, why is saluting a flag or a standing for a song, demonstrative of it?

I try to respect my country by living up (through action) to the ideals of freedom and liberty and equality of opportunity that we at least pay lip service to.

Those are values. Not symbols.

Think about this. After Charlottesville, the president was reticent (actually, he just acted like a dick) to stand up and unambiguously decry racism. There was never going to be an easier time to do it -- you had bigots gathering for a large demonstration. If you really value the symbolism inherent in that flag, you have to see racism and bigotry as threats to the values that flag represents. Otherwise, your supposed love of that flag has nothing to do with actual American values. For what it is worth, I personally find that to be true of a lot of people who drool over the symbol. They have usually lost sight of the values the symbol is supposed to represent.

In the case of Trump, fine. He's a jerk. But he didn't even leave well enough (or should I say bad enough?) alone. A month later, he made a douchey show of how offended he was by a black athlete whose aim was to protest racism by not standing for a flag. No reticence whatsoever, when it came to pouring lighter fluid on that and dropping a match.

What else can I take from that kind of behavior except that the symbol is important, but the values that symbol should stand for, aren't?

I personally think that people who blindly worships symbols, but value nothing, are sad. Potentially dangerous, too.
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Amen. I mean, the very implication of Make America Great Again is that our country isn't great. If your worldview doesn't allow yourself to believe anything other than the USA being the greatest goddamn country the world has ever seen, isn't this implication disrespectful? One party or ideology staking a claim to patriotism and national pride is the absolute antithesis to our nation's supposed ideals.

lakefront · Sep 29, 2017

Steak Snabler said: ↑

#notaboutrace
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"Burle said he ordered two NFL jerseys to be used as doormats outside his bar after NFL players started kneeling during the national anthem at football games.

“We pulled them out of the box, taped them down. There was no ill-intent,” Burle said."

Wow, can you order miscellaneous jerseys and they send you the first two off the shelf? What a coincidence! If you have the guts to put that out there, have the guts to admit it.

poindexter · Sep 29, 2017

YankeeFan said: ↑

Just give me my gladiator games!
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EXACTLY!

doctorquant · Sep 29, 2017

YankeeFan said: ↑

Just give me my gladiator games!
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I thought our board pugilists were in one of those temporary "Give peace a chance" modes ...

Oh, wait.

DanielSimpsonDay · Sep 29, 2017

lakefront said: ↑

"Burle said he ordered two NFL jerseys to be used as doormats outside his bar after NFL players started kneeling during the national anthem at football games.

“We pulled them out of the box, taped them down. There was no ill-intent,” Burle said."

Wow, can you order miscellaneous jerseys and they send you the first two off the shelf? What a coincidence! If you have the guts to put that out there, have the guts to admit it.
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Imagine the ill intent had he opened the box and pulled out JJ Watt and Drew Brees jerseys.

JC · Sep 29, 2017

lakefront said: ↑

"Burle said he ordered two NFL jerseys to be used as doormats outside his bar after NFL players started kneeling during the national anthem at football games.

“We pulled them out of the box, taped them down. There was no ill-intent,” Burle said."

Wow, can you order miscellaneous jerseys and they send you the first two off the shelf? What a coincidence! If you have the guts to put that out there, have the guts to admit it.
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Typical snowflake who won't own up to what he has done.

TheSportsPredictor · Sep 29, 2017

Doc Holliday said: ↑

Once again, avoiding the answer. Writing around it. Talking around it. If you guys support it, which you obviously do, then do it yourself. Maybe you get the whole damn stadium to take a knee, right?

Like I said, you're all talk. None of you will take a knee during the national anthem to support their cause because they don't know even know what their cause is or or what they're protesting, and you sure as hell don't support it either. Damn I love Snowflakes.
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The Snowflakes are the ones crying their eyes out over people protesting during the anthem.

BTExpress · Sep 29, 2017

Snowflake, no snowflake.

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