Shooting at Las Vegas casino

This isn't an argument I particularly want to have, particularly not today. I'm old and I basically don't hunt anymore, and I was never hunting crazy to start with. I'd be happy if all the M-4s and AK's went away tomorrow, no one really needs them. They're basically to play army with instead of a stick for a gun and pine cone grenades.

That said, golf courses are a horrible waste of land and other assets, in particular water. I remember flying into Phoenix, seeing all the emerald green courses in the midst of universal desert browns, and wondering how many tens of thousands of gallons a year each required to keep them alive. If you're a golfer and someone goes after your golf courses with similar arguments I imagine you'd get defensive too.

Stoney, deer are not stupid. They know when they're basically safe and no one messes with them, and they know when it's hunting season. It's hunting season when hundreds of dickalopes come driving up into their woods at five in the morning, slamming doors, smoking, talking, and stomping around the woods. They get skittish in a right quick hurry.

Hell, I never owned a semi-auto rifle other than a .22. I hunted with a 30-30 lever action or a shotgun. Like I said, most of my hunts were at short range in brush country.

 

The amount I spend on hunting is much cheaper than I'd spend buying free range, organic venison, squirrel, duck and goose meat.

 

I have nothing against hunting although the two times I did it as a teen, once for duck, once for deer, I was cold, wet and bored out of my skull. It is, stats show, a recreational activity in steep decline, maybe because as the exurbs expand, hunting grounds shrink.

 

That is probably very true. But it isn't necessary. You don't NEED those items, you want them. (Not attacking you)

 

Hunting isn't a relic. It's used today to help keep populations of deer and other animals in check in some areas. There are also some people who don't live close enough to reliable food sources and are forced to hunt and/or fish.

 

How do you control a feral hog population? Put condoms on them?

 

"Blankety-blank is a relic from the last ... it is no longer necessary" ain't much of an argument.

 

I live in an area with a plethora of hunters. I know quite a few people who love hunting. I have heard that over and over.

 

I feel it is valid. Agree to disagree. I don't see a lot of people riding horses to town, either, since cars became popular.

 

For many people it is necessary. I'd be glad to take you deep into the Ozarks - an hour's drive from the nearest grocery store - where there are still people who mostly eat wild game they've killed.

Hunters Feeding the Hungry also donate tons of meat to local food banks and homeless centers as well.

Kill every single one of them you see.

 

Frankly, I enjoyed just being in the woods hunting if I never saw anything or fired a shot. Try being deep in the woods early, sitting very still, and making as little noise as possible. You get to watch the world around you awaken.. birds come out, sing, scratching around for food. Squirrels, ditto. I've seen a red tailed hawk do his best to pick off a squirrel in a tree and lose. Hell, I've sat in a deer stand and heard one coming, step, step, step, stop. Rustle the leaves. More steps. Nerve racking. Trying to be very still and quiet and alert as it never comes into sight... until an armadillo comes around a tree and I realize that it was him all along.

Ditto, hearing them coming when I was in a spot that funnels between two ridges into a little feeding field. I had a great ground stand behind a fallen tree sitting on a stump. I was very hard to see and had great sight lines. I could hear several deer coming pretty quickly. Six or eight does came around the hump of the ridge perhaps fifteen yards away and one came right at me, jumped the tree, and landed perhaps six feet away. It would be hard to tell who was more surprised as we looked into each other's eyes, then she snorted an alarm and the whole crew busted out of there at a high rate of speed.

It's not all guns and deer guts.

 

Hunting isn't the problem with firearms in this country and never has been. But it's in the best interest of hunters to vocally separate themselves from the firearms lobby, which in fact many have done.