President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

I agree that our political system is filled with people who are full of shit.

But this is exactly what the Bullshit-artist-in-chief is hoping for. ... Everyone gets painted with a broad brush that way, and the biggest charlatan of them all skates on some of his BS because of the equivalency. He lies, distorts. ... and counts on people forgetting his last BS because he thinks he can obfuscate the truth.

Let's be clear. We we have a charlatan and an absolute moron occupying the highest office in the land. He's not even particularly artful at trying to bullshit people. ... that memo (which he was behind, with that Nunes idiot abdicating his responsibility of independence -- the legislature is supposed to be a check on the executive -- to play the role of lackey) was one weakass smokescreen. He spends months tying to build a false case, orchestrates that stupid memo, and runs right to twitter with the "vindicated" cry.

I have no idea if Trump colluded with Russia. I think he is VERY capable of having colluded with them, but at the same time, I think him and the clownshow he surrounded himself with may not have been sophisticated enough to actually pull off collusion. I also think Putin is smart enough to not have trusted Trump enough to collude with him. Which leaves several possibilities that I find likely: 1) Russia was fucking around, trying to plant fake news stories on social media, in news outlets, and hacking people's e-mails and feeding them to Julian Assange to release, etc. ... and it is clear that Putin was working for Trump and against Hillary Clinton. Then the question becomes why? So. ... 2) Did / does Putin believe he has shit he thinks can blackmail Trump with (as has been suggested)? I find 1 to be almost a certainty, and 2 to be a very distinct possibility.

After Trump was elected, I posted something somewhere on this thread calling him a bullshit artist and suggesting that his presidency might go down in an ethics scandal of some sort because Trump wouldn't be able to help himself. And that is what is happening with the Russia investigation. There are several facets here: 1) Trump (or his people) very well may not have colluded with the Russians (even as the Russians were putting out feelers to people he was surrounded with and his idiot son). But the idiot has felt that any suggestion of the Russians doing anything delegitimized his win. ... and just like with Nixon, the coverup is always what gets people this dumb. So Trump has done every hamhanded, moronic, dishonest thing. -- and that includes what should be obvious obstruction of justice for anyone not blinded by politics -- he can to try to stop an investigation from going on. And the more he does, the bigger he digs a hole. ... firing Comey, demanding personal oaths of loyalty, creating all kinds of smokescreens (including this memo), throwing the justice department under his bus, etc. And that should really piss people off. This is the president of the United States! 2) Aside from that, when you put someone as good as Robert Mueller on a trail. ... with a sleezeball as big as Donald Trump and the people he surrounded himself with, he is going to find a lot of rot. So he's all over obstruction of justice (which is a legit charge!). But on top of it, any of those idiots who the Russians reached out to and who even entertained it a little (even if it didn't really go anywhere) is guilty of Logan Act type stuff. And beyond that. ... When you are talking about Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn (who remember, Trump insisted on bringing along for the ride against everyone's counsel), you are going to dig up all kinds of illegal behavior. And then there is Trump. If they dig into his finances and business practices at all, we all know they are going to find stuff that will make white collar criminals scattered throughout the Federal penitentiary system look like angels. And worse. ... they are probably going to find shady financing by Russian Oligarchs, Sperbank, etc. (and probably orchestrated by Putin to try to make Trump into a latent asset), which will then get muddled back into the broad "Russia!" generalities that will then become politicized all over again to try to make a case that Russia stole an election and gave it to Trump. When in reality, it's much more complicated than that. ... and compounded by the fact that we have the biggest, unfit clown and idiot ever in the oval office, and he has a lifetime of unethical behavior and outright lies (some of which involves Russia) which makes him a much bigger embarrassment to America than even the broad "Russia" generalities suggest.