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The Athletic keeps growing .......

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Fran Curci, Feb 3, 2018.

  1. Fran Curci

    Fran Curci Well-Known Member

    Agree. And beyond the hires right out of college, they're hiring average writers with greater frequency as they grow. That is not surprising. But they've been hiring at such a pace, you wonder how much they are really vetting these new hires.
     
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  2. Fran Curci

    Fran Curci Well-Known Member

    Why not hire someone better from another market? Yes, you'd have some relocation costs, but look at the cost of getting stuck with someone mediocre.
     
  3. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Why would they be stuck? Just cut that person loose and find someone else if they aren't satisfied. I'm sure they've done that already in various places.

    If we're still talking about the guy on the Mizzou beat, I've been reading him a little bit (alum here) and he is getting the job done. The hire is fine. They wouldn't have done better hiring someone more experienced and moving them into town.

    Whoever came on here to anonymously trash a college student has some major psychological issues, I know that for sure.
     
  4. Waldo9939

    Waldo9939 Active Member

    One thing I have noticed is they’re now hiring for some copy editors and a fantasy sports writer. So I wonder what they’ll pay for those spots and whether the copy editor spots will be remote or in a “hub” somewhere.
     
  5. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    I’m challenging this statement, partially because I’d like to see what others think.

    I will be the first to admit that getting hired by Hockey Night in Canada changed the way people perceived me. “Oh, you’re with HNIC? Well, I’m going to have more time for you.” Yes, that name is more valuable than my name. No question. But I do believe there are people who become bigger than the brand. Fans look for them or respect them. A paywall is a different animal, yes. But you can’t tell me that it’s always the brand.

    It’s like a great player. People will find you
     
  6. Reddy235

    Reddy235 Member

    It’s a chicken and egg argument. Which came first, the media person with the big following or the place that person worked at?
    But as I said before, most of these newspaper people the Athletic hired developed good-sized twitter followings because they were/are associated with their favorite team.
    Then, they got a lot because their newspapers were formerly the dominant media outlet in town, for the most part. And their content was most likely free.
    It’s easy to develop 10-15k followers on twitter in that case.
    Now? Sure, the Athletic now owns those people and their twitter followers. But how many of those followers will make the leap with them and pay money to read them?
    The average will probably be 10%, give or take a couple points.
    New people will come along to those papers, develop the same kind of following and then the Athletic will be looking around saying “why the hell did we spend so much money on writers that had artificial followings?”
    Check out many of the new Athletic writers’ links to stories on twitter. A large majority of them get little feedback.
    The title of this thread should be renamed “The Athletic just keeps spending.”
    Maybe I’ll be wrong. I don’t care either way.
     
  7. Reddy235

    Reddy235 Member

    And no offense Elliotte, because I think you do great work. But if you were off HNIC tomorrow, someone would take your place and hockey fans would still tune in at the same rate I imagine.
     
  8. Elliotte Friedman

    Elliotte Friedman Moderator Staff Member

    Oh I don’t disagree with that at all. Totally true. It’s all about the games.

    But I do believe there are people fans will follow. Russo (Minnesota) is one. Botchford is another. But the proof is how many people will pay. We’ll find out, I guess.
     
  9. PaperDoll

    PaperDoll Well-Known Member

    I believe The Athletic's copy editors are remote based on the ad, but those who work for the site probably know better.

    Agreed.

    Given the history with dimwits on the phone (er, in my email inbox), I don't think most people pay attention to who wrote the story, or if they're local vs. wire. Maybe on social media they do, but supposedly the clickthrough rate on Twitter (and even Facebook) is very poor.

    Also, given the thread about the Roanoke Twitter account, can all these reporters take the existing accounts (and heaps of followers) with them and only change the username? Personally, I'm not sure of my work account's status.
     
  10. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    "Better" is in the eye of the beholder. In one market, the recently hired NBA writer was a blogger for the past five years on Fansided or one of those types of joints. I know some of the established journos in town found him to be a strange hire, but maybe to the diehard fans in the market who subscribe, the guy is a familiar name who they enjoy reading. There's no guarantee that a "better" writer from elsewhere will be successful in a given market, in a paywall system.
     
  11. ondeadline

    ondeadline Well-Known Member

    I've heard that the copy editors will work remotely.
     
  12. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    In some cases they're doing that. They just hired the Nuggets beat writer from the Denver Post to cover the Phoenix Suns. (They hired the Suns beat writer from the Republic to cover the Cardinals.)
     
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