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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    We act like trump and their supporters have any empathy for anyone besides themselves and if they could only perceive the objective truth of their actions they would act magnanimously. We act like they have some professed faith or belief that propels them to act with a common Christian morality. We all act like the goals of the nation are the same and we are fighting over the policies to get us there.

    That's all bullshit, the trump-conservatives-evangelicals-elected and appointed federal office holders are just interested in enriching themselves in a zero sum life. Thats it. that's all there is to it. trump is in it for the money because he's cash poor and debt loaded.
     
  2. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Well, if you don't think we need a government made up of professional politicians competing to offer the most stuff to people, which those people personally don't have to pay for. ... you certainly have to love a government that is empowered to randomly interfere in people's business on "national security" grounds.

    Exclusive: Told U.S. security at risk, Chinese firm seeks to sell Grindr dating app | Reuters

    The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (whenever I hear the word "committee" given any kind of governmental regulatory power, I know that something unjust is being done) has apparently decided that we are at grave risk because Chinese investors own a large gay dating app business operating in the U.S.

    Mind you, this isn't even them trying to prevent an acquisition, what they usually do. This is them trying to take away something someone already has bought and paid for.
     
  4. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

    this will also be bob kraft's defense
     
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  5. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  6. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    So there must be a LOT of US officials, elected and appointed, as well as high-ranking military personnel, using this app on the down low, a fact that cannot be allowed to fall into Chinese hands. That's the only logical conclusion.
     
  7. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    Same with his freaking tax returns.
     
  8. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Okay - I realize Trump places great faith in people he sees on Fox News so he assumes they know what they're talking about. But what is Fox News' excuse? Why do they book so many guests and contributors who lack the credentials? I'm guessing point of view and a willingness to "bend to the narrative" are the bigger requirements to get on air.
    Since Ailes is gone, I do wonder who is calling the shots on contributors and narrative. The network does a great job of seguing from conspiracy/crisis to conspiracy/crisis. This week's "wall" is next week's "media/deep state cabal." It works to both rile up the base against any political effort they want stopped or to distract from news they don't want their viewership to focus on. The morning shows through the day and into the primetime - all the shows will touch on the most minor story if it supports the narrative (with the exception of the Shep/Baier blocks).
     
  9. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Nobody is qualified to sit on that board, at least any more than the Soviet poliburo was qualifed to decide how much toilet paper should cost, rather than allowing a free market to work.

    But if Stephen Moore gets confirmed, can we finally put to rest the nonsense that the central bank is above politics and that it is doing some holy work that is based on a nonensical tea reading abiliyt?

    What is particularly noteworthy to me is how the two parties have now become two heads of the same coin. Sure they use different rhetoric, but the game here is simple: Spend trillions of dollars wastefully (each promoting different constituents they want to buy). ... and rely on a central planning authority to monetize all of the debt you create in the pocess so you can keep doing it for as long as possible. Whoever is in power inevitably wants the same thing, whether it is George Bush, Barack Obama or Donald Trump. ... a central bank that keeps money as cheap as necessary to enable yet another year of runaway debt accumulation. No regard for what happens at the end of that game.

    The idea that Stephen Moore is the "conservative" economist is the perfect demonstration of how perverted the terms conservative and liberal have become. There is absolutely no distinction between Stephen Moore and Ben Bernanke. They are both full of shit (their degrees have zero to do with that), and no, they don't know anything more than millions of people making decisions for themselves would if a free market could set the price of money (and calibrate lending risk). You don't need a PhD to subvert the decisions we'd all make if left free to make them ourselves. Especially when they have spent the last several decades creating a connected series of sugar highs (that they claim genius for) that has created a series of artificial booms followed by devastating credit-related busts. You don't need special training to rig the debt markets so they can't price risk well anymore, any more than a child needs a special degree to gorge on candy.
     
  11. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    One factor is affordability. What you say about “choosing” not to have health insurance may be that they can’t afford it without the subsidies or the Medicaid expansion. Not being able to afford it isn’t necessarily a “choice.”
     
  12. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    That's a fair point. But how do we KNOW (exact numbers, I mean)?

    These people didn't all sign up because "Thank God it's affordable now!" They signed up because . . . they had to, even if it was STILL (to them) unaffordable.
     
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