President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Neutral Corner · Sep 20, 2019

Neutral Corner · Sep 20, 2019

Neutral Corner · Sep 20, 2019

Ok, I'll shut up for a while.

Neutral Corner · Sep 20, 2019

Never mind, one more.

Neutral Corner · Sep 20, 2019

Starman · Sep 20, 2019

Neutral Corner said: ↑

If this is true, we're off to the races... and it's the WSJ. I wonder if this is the call the whistleblower is referring to, or if there is another with a clear quid pro quo.

Trump Asked Ukraine President to Probe Hunter Biden Eight Times in One Call: WSJ
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The quid pro quo is implicit, and unmistakable.

"Ukraine, if you're listening, I'm sure you will be greatly rewarded..."

bigpern23 · Sep 20, 2019

The Big Ragu said: ↑

Obviously, this is one area where you really want something in place that allows whistleblowers to feel comfortable doing the right thing without fear of retribution.

A person in a position of power can do so much harm to the country by putting up American foreign policy for sale for their personal or financial or political ambitions. To the extent that someone in the intelligence services might be privy to that happening when the rest of us are going to be in the dark, it's one of the most vital areas I can think of to have whistleblower protections in place.

Without Mark Felt, for example, do we find out what Nixon was up to?

For whatever his reasons, Felt was willing to step up without a whistleblower law in place. But others might not feel as comfortable.

What happens now, is you are a potential whistleblower. Unless you are fearless and have a very strong moral compass, you:

1) Are saying to yourself, "Why bother?" It's not going to make a difference. A Bill Barr type hack can just squash it and my career is destroyed.
2) And more importantly, you are saying, "I am going to be subject to a character assassination." Because this kind of attack the messenger with all kinds of crap has become the norm now.

The fact that that kind of thing resonates with anyone is what personally boggles me the most. When I see someone attack the messenger and ignore the message, it usually raises my antennae even more.
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You're on fire today, my man. On point in a big way.

bigpern23 · Sep 20, 2019

Neutral Corner said: ↑

What I'd give for a reporter to reply "No, sir, Mr. President, you are laughed at all over the world. You're a joke."
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Catharsis aside, it would be a dereliction of duty.

bigpern23 · Sep 20, 2019

Starman said: ↑

Pocahontas coming with the tomahawk.

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"... impeach the motherfucker..." is the preferred nomenclature.

HanSenSE · Sep 21, 2019

As a foreign reporter visiting the US I was stunned by Trump's press conference | Lenore Taylor

Starman · Sep 21, 2019

Some day, and that day may never come, I will call upon you to do a service for me. But until that day, consider this a gift.
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Slacker · Sep 21, 2019

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