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Muh Muh Muh My Corona (virus)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Twirling Time, Jan 21, 2020.

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  1. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    Globally infections up, hospitalizations up, deaths up.

    But new iPhone!
     
    goalmouth, Oct 15, 2020
    #13873
  2. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The story is a good example of the self-loathing at play.

    Why does the story band it at 5 months? Did March and April not happen?

    Why does the story self select other “high income” nations when tens of millions of Americans - in some cases more impoverished Americans than there are people in all of Scandinavia - are below the poverty line?

    This is what I mean by the coastal media being out of touch. What country do they think they live in? Australia - nation of 25 million, on a giant island, connected to no other nation, is a comparison country to the US in the study. Why? Because some folks went on a vacation once there?
     
    Alma, Oct 15, 2020
    #13874
  3. Jerry-atric

    Jerry-atric Well-Known Member

    Why do you like when this occurs?

    I enjoy sports, myself.
     
    Jerry-atric, Oct 15, 2020
    #13875
  4. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    Yeah, Vern. Why do BaD things haPPen to good people??
     
    3_Octave_Fart, Oct 15, 2020
    #13876
  5. FileNotFound

    FileNotFound Well-Known Member

    India’s data is also hard to trust, because nobody really knows what’s going on outside of the big cities.
     
    FileNotFound, Oct 15, 2020
    #13877
  6. lakefront

    lakefront Well-Known Member

    she was
     
    lakefront, Oct 15, 2020
    #13878
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Isn't the foundational premise of 'American exceptionalism' that we're better at everything than everyone else? That we hold ourselves to a higher standard? That we're tougher, smarter, more adaptable?

    The idea that we've got too many people below the poverty line to compare ourselves to European countries in our pandemic response is an indictment of the US, not a defense.

    Long term, which societies will come out of the pandemic in better shape? Those with robust social safety nets to protect their citizens and their businesses, or those without?

    Which will suffer longer term public health consequences?
     
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2020
    Azrael, Oct 15, 2020
    #13879
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  8. Jerry-atric

    Jerry-atric Well-Known Member

    That is a very good point.
     
    Jerry-atric, Oct 15, 2020
    #13880
  9. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    Mngwa, Oct 15, 2020
    #13881
    SFIND, OscarMadison, sgreenwell and 2 others like this.
  10. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    yep

    but, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
    Azrael, Oct 15, 2020
    #13882
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  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    1) The "coastal media out of touch" narrative --an Alma NarrativeTM -- is so tired and stupid. It is a study out of the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard, that ran in the Journal of the American Medical Association, one of the three most prestigious medical journals (peer reviewed) on the planet. How fucking out of touch for NPR to report on it.

    2) If you think a study that compares our deaths per capita to other countries doesn't tell us anything about our response, you are looking for reasons to dismiss anything that doesn't fit an Alma NarrativeTM. We all live in one world.

    3) Did you look at the study itself before you went off? They looked at the last 5 months, because they were trying to figure out if we were such fucking idiots and have done everything stupid that is possible since the initial surge BEFORE everyone had a handle on how to deal with the virus, that we have made things a lot worse in the U.S. What they found was that early on we were experiencing lower mortality rates than the rest of the world, but then the rest of the world smartened up to a much greater degree than we did and started to act like adults dealing with a difficult situation, while we acted like a bunch of idiots. And as a result, after that initial surge, our deaths per capita stayed really bad compared to other places. It acknowledges the differences in mortality risk between countries, but also points out that weak public health infrastructure and a decentralized, inconsistent US response to the pandemic have likely played a big role. It also points out that if US had comparable death rates with most high-mortality countries beginning May 10 (when it was abundantly clear how to best deal with the situation), it would have had 44,210 to 104,177 fewer deaths (depending on the countries of comparison). We are doing worse over the last few months than even high mortality countries, such as Spain. That 44,210 to 104,177 fewer deaths (a giant what if that should haunt everyone) is devastating. If you don't find it significant, no amount of reasoning with you will ever make a difference.
     
    The Big Ragu, Oct 15, 2020
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  12. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    Countries who don’t have leaders holding daily in-person rallies with no social distancing and no masks required are entitled to feel morally superior.
     
    Webster, Oct 15, 2020
    #13884
    OscarMadison, Inky_Wretch, 2muchcoffeeman and 1 other person like this.
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