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Muh Muh Muh My Corona (virus)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Twirling Time, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    How are we supposed to survive the Information Age when our society has failed even educated people so deeply that these hypotheses can gain traction just because some guy with literally no expertise whatsoever puts it under a byline?

    I mean, we aren’t surviving it, but Jesus fuck. Many experts took their precious time during a raging pandemic to specifically examine and debunk this idea, and still some chucklefuck who is explicitly trying to sell you his book can say “but maybe...” and tons of people take him seriously.

    The collective inability to filter bad information from good is literally going to be the death of our society at a minimum and quite possibly our species. It’s why you have lizard people theorists blowing up downtown Nashville. It’s why we have a reality tv president convincing a significant portion of our government to overthrow an election. It’s why QAnon now controls multiple members of Congress. And it’s why the planet is on a trajectory to become unlivable in a matter of decades and we can’t work up the political will to do anything about it.
     
  2. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  3. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

    questions are just being asked
     
  4. OscarMadison

    OscarMadison Well-Known Member

    Bad science needs to be exposed. Shushing it gives it power as far as the shallow brainpan crowd is concerned.
     
  5. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Translation: Swab the patient's nose. Put the indicated number of drops of the developer on the swab, and lay the wet end on the end of the test strip. The moisture will wick its way up the strip and a control line will turn pink, indicating that the test worked properly. A second line indicating a positive test either will or will not appear, depending on the patient's infection status.
     
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  6. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    That’s not what happened here
     
  7. TrooperBari

    TrooperBari Well-Known Member

    Virology Twitter sounds unimpressed with the display of JAQing off. Seems odd that New York Magazine would give a cover story over to a guy riffing on what he thinks might have happened despite a lack of evidence -- maybe it's a slow news month in New York. CW: Twitter threads ahead.







     
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  8. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but I'm talking about what it is that makes them there lines do their thing (or not).
     
  9. UPChip

    UPChip Well-Known Member

    I think the spit testing I've taken is largely via a private company, but here in Minnesota I know we've been very fortunate to have both one of the world's leading medical organizations, the Mayo Clinic, and a major public research university, the U of Minnesota.
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    None of you are exposing bad science, though. Nobody has addressed the susbtance of what he wrote. Several of you have just dismissed it, though.

    None of us have any idea what the origin of the virus is -- a bat virus that mutated or otherwise. There is no evidence that it came out of a lab.

    There is a virology lab near where the virus first spread, so naturally that became a focus for some people. Many w/ridiculous agendas, obviously.

    Given that we don't know the virus's origin, and those theories have gotten a lot of play, it's not out of line for New York magazine to do that story -- and they did some very exhaustive legwork and a lot of interviews to explore the theory (which was immediately dismissed early in the pandemic, but NOT disproven -- there is just no evidence of it) that it came from a lab.

    That is all that story does. The guy doesn't have to be a world reknowned virologist to write what he did. If the substance of what he wrote is wrong -- including giving ink to the statement from scientists insisting that they don't think it could have come from a lab -- what did he get wrong, and what is the evidence?
     
  11. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    someone already linked multiple Twitter threads from actual experts dunking on it.

    So now I either have to do the actual work googling up all the actual, serious scientific work done on why the virus isn’t lab-made, or he (and you) get to claim victory. This is how the age of anti-expertise wins: random idiots can spout whatever they want, it takes them literally no effort to say whatever comes into their mind, but proving the truth takes significantly more effort.
     
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  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    That's why I'm curious about the fact checking.
     
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