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Kat O’Brien: I was raped by an MLB player

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Inky_Wretch, Jun 20, 2021.

  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member


     
  2. ThomsonONE

    ThomsonONE Member

    Name him. Without the name this is meaningless.
     
  3. gingerbread

    gingerbread Well-Known Member

    Bullshit.
    This kind of thinking (and by extension, mocking the victim by calling what happened to her "meaningless") makes me nearly as angry as I was when Kat confided she had been raped. The courage it took for her to make her rape public, finally, is extraordinary.
    If she named him, imagine the vitriol, the doxxing, that would come her way. All you have to do is read the comments on social media accusing her of all sorts of crap -- idiots saying it's a money grab or she just wants to be famous. The statute of limitations has long passed, and she's not suing him in any court. She already detailed all of the things she passed up (new jobs, different responsibilities) in sport because she feared the rapist had started a whisper campaign.

    Tell us, brave @ThomsonONE, if you were in her shoes, how you'd prepare for the fallout after naming him. Tell me all the meaningful things you've done that will help me understand how you got to be so brave.
     
  4. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    If you read that and think it's meaningless, maybe you should read it again.
     
  5. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    This times a thousand. And more. Meaningless? One of my closest friends was one of the first female reporters allowed into the Angels clubhouse in the late 1970s. The stories she has told me pale in comparison to Kat, but what we've talked about ....
     
  6. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    "Meaningless"

    LOL if that take wasn't so utterly pathetic.
     
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  7. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    In the last few months I’ve told a few people my story. The first two men I told (both people I am close to) first pledged that they believed me, acknowledged that what happened was horrifying and not my fault, and in the next moment asked, “But you really couldn’t get away?” They might as well have cut me with a knife. I tell no one for 18 years out of shame and self-blame, and now you ask me if I couldn’t have gotten away? From a professional athlete who weighed 70 or 80 pounds more than me?

    I can't add anything to this, and I wouldn't try. But it hurts to read it.
     
  8. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    Woman admits to being raped which carries a stigma all its own already. Woman admits to being raped by a member of a multi-billion-dollar organization home to vaunted athletes who get paid millions to heap piles criticism on herself on top of the stigma she already faces. And the first thought is all of this is meaningless unless she names names? That’s a special kind of douchebag right there.

    Her story is enough. And hopefully inspires others to tell theirs to expose the utter misogynistic and toxic world of pro sports. And let’s not pretend there aren’t others or that everything is wholesome.
     
  9. OscarMadison

    OscarMadison Well-Known Member

    @ThomsonONE, I'm not feeling particularly patient or giving this morning, so I'll go there.

    Go fuck yourself, you tiny-dicked, booger-eating, monosyllabic product of married first cousins.
     
  10. ThomsonONE

    ThomsonONE Member

    Rape is horrible so I'll get that out of the way first. The rapist should be in prison for a long, long time.

    I'll assume that because you are a member here that you are a journalist. This isn't any type of story without details. Naming the player is what will help to stop this behavior, and is what will force the player to face justice. This isn't a news story without any details. How many times has the media run with a story that later turned out to be untrue? Too many to count in the last decade. If no one named Harvey Weinstein he would still be out raping actresses. She is worried about having her reputation damaged by naming the player? That's weak. She will be held up and supported for naming him and any attempts at tarnishing her will be met with fury and will backfire badly on the player. Name him - that is the courageous thing to do.
     
  11. swingline

    swingline Well-Known Member

    Popping the corn, and in before the lock.
     
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  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    You aren't the one who gets to tell her what the courageous thing to do is or that she is "weak." I'll assume you haven't walked an inch in her shoes, let alone a mile. If she was raped and traumatized by it, only she knows what she is comfortable with in telling her story. Some random person judging her comes off as super callous.

    You are conflating things. Yes, the media has gotten some rape / sexual assault stories wrong in the past. Where there was an accusation against someone specific made, and there were news stories that gave too much weight to what an accuser or a DA said. This is not a case of that. It was an essay, not a news story. It's made clear that she is telling her story from her perspective written by her. It's perfectly valid.

    You are also flat-out wrong. It is absolutely a story, even without her giving a name. When things like this stay in the shadows, it provides a fertile ground for it to keep happening. This essay will get people talking. ... and thinking.

    In terms of change, it is just one more building block in the cultural change that #metoo started. At some point in the future, there might be another player who has it in him to rape a woman, and he might not do it because in the back of his head, he'll have to think about how he might be the one who doesn't get away with it. If there is even a minuscule chance of that, her essay has value. Either way, it absolutely is a story.
     
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