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Hondo, I think the prevailing thought (as ever) is that Trump indeed is too big to fail. Too many people would go down if he did. Too many lives wrecked over one scumbag.

 

Not that you asked, but I don’t agree with this one either.

Find evidence of wrongdoing, build a case, prosecute wrongdoing (or don’t, if not enough evidence exists). No matter who else gets implicated.

 

I understand the viewpoint. I just don't care anymore. And that is their clear intent- to exhaust, to exasperate. Make no mistake.

The case against Mark Meadows appears ironclad. They can't even get that weak nimrod to testify before Congress. It's a fucking joke, all of it.

 

I was one of the last to figure this out too, so don’t feel bad. But that “nation of laws” bullshit they fed us in civics class is exactly that.

 

I don't think that they go after Trump for any of the big government breaking stuff he did, the things that should be prosecuted, corrected, and strengthened. I think they'll get enough on him via tax/real estate/insurance fraud, plus maybe the Trump Org's tax shenanigans, to make something stick. Hopefully enough charges to really anchor him down hard with felony prosecutions, lawyers, and fear of jail badly enough that he gets off the national political scene. Bonus points for the Inauguration money and the "Find me 34, 770 votes".

I wish the asshole would just up and keel over one night.

 

The Charlottesville trial is just starting. How long did that take?

 

If you’re going to charge Trump with jaywalking, you better make sure the case is bulletproof. It only takes one Trump fan to get a hung jury.

 

Why? January 6th was an FBI sting operation, right?

Call logs, speech drafts among records Trump is trying to block from Jan. 6 investigators

 

No one is getting charged with anything because the Democrats don’t want to be charged when the shoe is on the other foot.

If there is anything we’re learning from the stalled bills in Congress it’s that the Dems are as beholden to powerful elites as much as the QOP is, and sometimes those elites are the same on both sides of the aisle.

 

That's a real problem if they're planning on committing treason and sedition and scores of other crimes

 

Oh, it’s a little more than that.

According to the filing, Mr. Trump has asserted executive privilege specifically over 770 pages of documents, including 46 pages of records from the files of Mark Meadows, his former chief of staff; Stephen Miller, his former senior adviser; and Patrick Philbin, his former deputy counsel. Mr. Trump is also objecting to the release of the White House Daily Diary — a record of the president’s movements, phone calls, trips, briefings, meetings and activities — as well as logs showing phone calls to the president and to Vice President Mike Pence concerning Jan. 6, Mr. Laster wrote.

Mr. Trump has also asserted executive privilege over 656 pages that include proposed talking points for Kayleigh McEnany, his former press secretary; a handwritten note concerning Jan. 6; a draft text of a presidential speech for the “Save America” rally that preceded the mob attack; and a draft executive order on the topic of election integrity, the filing states.

Finally, Mr. Trump asserted executive privilege over 68 additional pages, including a draft proclamation honoring the Capitol Police and two officers who died after the riot, Brian D. Sicknick and Howard Liebengood, as well as related emails; a memo about a potential lawsuit against several states that Joseph R. Biden Jr. won in the November election; an email chain from a state official regarding election-related issues; and talking points on alleged election irregularities in one Michigan county.​

NY Times: Court Filing Lists Documents Trump Seeks to Withhold From Jan. 6 Inquiry

Meanwhile, Trump legal adviser John Eastman of the right-wing Claremont Institute went full gaslight, telling Pence’s team that the Jan. 6 riot was Pence’s fault.

“The ‘siege’ is because YOU and your boss did not do what was necessary to allow this to be aired in a public way so that the American people can see for themselves what happened,” Eastman wrote to Jacob, referring to Trump’s claims of voter fraud.

Eastman sent the email as Pence, who had been presiding in the Senate, was under guard with Jacob and other advisers in a secure area. Rioters were tearing through the Capitol complex, some of them calling for Pence to be executed.

Jacob, Pence’s chief counsel, included Eastman’s emailed remarks in a draft opinion article about Trump’s outside legal team that he wrote later in January but ultimately chose not to publish. The Washington Post obtained a copy of the draft. Jacob wrote that by sending the email at that moment, Eastman “displayed a shocking lack of awareness of how those practical implications were playing out in real time.” …

He stood by legal advice he gave Pence to halt Congress’s certification on Jan. 6 to allow Republican state lawmakers to investigate the unfounded fraud claims, which multiple legal scholars have said Pence was not authorized to do.

Eastman said the email saying Pence’s inaction led to the violence was a response to an email in which Jacob told him that his “bull----” legal advice was why Pence’s team was “under siege,” and that Jacob had later apologized.

A person familiar with the emails said Jacob apologized for using profanity but still maintained that Eastman’s advice was “snake oil.” That person, like several others interviewed for this story, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...373016-38c1-11ec-91dc-551d44733e2d_story.html

Here’s Eastman calling for state officials who didn’t want to illegally overturn the election to be primaried next year … among other things.

 

I get what you're saying but prove me wrong.