Running racism in America thread

No shit it was imprudent. That’s why her recovery was reduced by her percentage of the fault. Bottom line - under negligence law, it is foreseeable customers will misuse a product and the vendor/manufacturer/ whomever has a duty to address foreseeable harm. And where are you getting this idea that her lawyers argued the coffee should have been 60 degrees? That’s ludicrous. Her own expert testified that at 160 degrees would have been sufficient to avoid third degree burns. Anyway - agree to disagree on the merits.

 

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"Liebeck’s case was far from an isolated event. McDonald’s had received more than 700 previous reports of injury from its coffee, including reports of third-degree burns, and had paid settlements in some cases."

 

Yeah, sorry. 700 documented cases - including some that settled in the 6 figures -- is enough to say "maybe we should revisit our corporate requirement that coffee be held at a temperature of at least 180 degrees and do what other places are doing." It's enough to show foreseeability of harm. After all, nobody else was keeping it at that temperature. It's foreseeable that people will spill and it's foreseeable that coffee served AT THAT TEMPERATURE can cause severe burns as we saw. Scientific experts testified that just 10 degrees cooler is enough to slow down the burn process and reduce severity dramatically. Thus a reasonably prudent company would say, 'Let's go with 160-170 since that is enough to keep it hot for flavor purposes while alleviating most of the risk." They didn't do that despite being on notice of the risk. And they could have dispensed with the case by paying 20k for her medical expenses. That's all she asked for. That and a safer lid. They said we'll offer $800, otherwise fuck off and made her go to trial instead. Cry me a fucking river for the poor, poor company, which actually got off pretty easy, all things considered.

 

They may serve coffee hotter than 140. They don't serve it at 180-185. That was the issue. You seem to be missing the point about the severity of the burn hazard being reduced geometrically at just 10-15 degrees less. Your Starbucks example is a red herring.

 

You’re right. Everyone else is wrong.

can we move on to another topic?

Having a woman of color playing Ariel The Little Mermaid in a live action performance is cultural appropriation. Talk amongst yourselves.

 

Not sure what to make of the BYU thing. The player in question wasn't the only one who reported "hearing" it right?

 

Fuck off. I've had more than enough of this bullshit about the skin tones of mythical beings, whether we're talking mermaids, elves or superheroes.

 

I think she was.

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/duke/article265545666.html

 

If you go back and look at the video that is a few pages back on this thread, as she's serving. You can see a female BYU fan tap one of her friends and it looks like she's saying don't say that. It is all women. It is completely conceivable that one of those young women standing right there hurled the n-word and no microphone picked it up. I don't know why they banned some man, but I think it came from those co-eds right there by the court.