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Roe v. Wade to be overturned?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by outofplace, May 3, 2022.

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  1. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    Fucking fuckers
     
    Mngwa, Sep 12, 2022
    #1933
  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    I’ve said this before, but the Republican Party should never have been forgiven for the Iraq War.
     
    Baron Scicluna, Sep 12, 2022
    #1934
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  3. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    Hopefully the Dems can take advantage of the current GOP’s political instincts being this unbelievably fucking bad.
     
    Deskgrunt50, Sep 12, 2022
    #1935
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  4. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    Nor should Hillary Clinton, who voted to support it.
     
    I Should Coco, Sep 13, 2022
    #1936
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  5. FileNotFound

    FileNotFound Well-Known Member

    They won’t.
     
    FileNotFound, Sep 13, 2022
    #1937
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  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I believe 75 percent of Americans supported the Iraq war (when they thought we'd launch a few missles, roll in and have the place conquered in 3 days). Apparently the U.S. was overwhelmingly "Republican party" in 2003.
     
    The Big Ragu, Sep 13, 2022
    #1938
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    She, and the other Dems, voted for it based upon what the GOP presented.

    Is it shame of them for believing the GOP lies, or shame on the GOP for lying? Which is it?
     
    Baron Scicluna, Sep 13, 2022
    #1939
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  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It's purely revisionist history to turn this into her being misled. Even she has never quite said that, and she is the queen of shapeshifting. Years later, her line of bullshit was that Bush told her he could use the authorization as leverage to get Iraq to allow inspectors back in, but that he lied to her and said he wasn't going to actually invade, so she went along with him. But that only became her explanation more than a decade later, when she was getting hammered by Obama and it was hurting her in her run for president.

    The reality: She was (still is) a hyena not guided by any real set of principles. At the time, an invasion was overwhelmingly popular, and she was being advised by the same poll-driven advisors who had run her husband's presidency to vote yes. Her husband was telling her to vote yes. It was a popular stance and that was all that they saw. In hindsight, it bit her in the ass.
     
    The Big Ragu, Sep 13, 2022
    #1940
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  9. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    Not sure that's true and not sure how you measure. I was pretty sure Bush and all were lying and I didn't make that up by myself. It was based on things I was seeing and reading. Afghanistan? That was universally supported. But the thought was there that Bush went into Iraq, in part, because they tried to kill daddy. And that he was swerving from the mission to get bin Laden.
     
    Mngwa, Sep 13, 2022
    #1941
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Quick google search. ...

    Seventy-Two Percent of Americans Support War Against Iraq

    You don't get numbers like that for anything in a political poll.
     
    The Big Ragu, Sep 13, 2022
    #1942
  11. Mngwa

    Mngwa Well-Known Member

    Fair enough. I remember it being more contentious, particularly the false claim about the Nigerian yellowcake. Weird.
     
    Mngwa, Sep 13, 2022
    #1943
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  12. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    The real truth is that she and other Ds, like Kerry, Biden, Schumer, Reid, Daschle, Edwards, supported it to maintain their "political viability." They wouldn't have gotten credit for being against the war when everyone was for it - they would have been buried if the war turned out "well" and would have been looked at as weak and unAmerican. And even some of the gutless Ds and Rs in the House only voted no after there were enough votes to secure passage. It was going to be a "Republican War" regardless.
     
    DanOregon, Sep 13, 2022
    #1944
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