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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

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  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Of course.

    But laws should be limited in their application to violations of the rights of others through force or fraud. ... or if someone is involuntarily harming others (for example, if a factory is dumping toxic chemicals into a public lake).

    None of that applies to, "I want to pay less than the price arrived at via voluntary exchange, so the government should put in price controls."
     
    The Big Ragu, Sep 30, 2022
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  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Not all is as simple or obvious as it seems. For starters, all crude oil ain't the same. U.S. refineries tend to be set up to work with the kind of oil "we" import. Similarly, U.S. crude exports tend to be of the type "our" refineries aren't set up for. And changing that setup ain't exactly a matter of dialing a few knobs.

    Also: How is "reduced ... dependency on foreign oil" necessarily in the best interests of the (U.S.) consumer?
     
    doctorquant, Sep 30, 2022
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  3. Sam Mills 51

    Sam Mills 51 Well-Known Member

    Guess who is fundraising in Florida right now? (Hint: It's not about helping out anyone affected by Hurricane Ian.)

     
    Sam Mills 51, Sep 30, 2022
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  4. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

     
    garrow, Sep 30, 2022
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  5. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Fealty to me, none for thee.
     
    Regan MacNeil, Sep 30, 2022
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  6. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    Justin_Rice, Sep 30, 2022
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  7. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    FFS

     
    garrow, Sep 30, 2022
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  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It's easy to be conspiculously compassionate. ... when you think you are entitled to force others to pay the cost.

    Nobody said anything like "Fealty to me, none for thee." That is yet another distortion. It's possible (and usually is the case) to understand what I posted, and also be personally commited to voluntary charity.
     
    The Big Ragu, Sep 30, 2022
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  9. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    You are responding to an imaginary post.
     
    Regan MacNeil, Sep 30, 2022
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  10. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    If you didn't want it done via government, you didn't want it done.
     
    doctorquant, Sep 30, 2022
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  11. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    You’ve got rabbit ears Angel Hernandez would be proud of. He was pretty clearly talking about the DeSantis story above his.
     
    dixiehack, Sep 30, 2022
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  12. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    So you have no problem with jacking up the price of insulin, epipens and other medicines? After all, it's just the free market, right, so what if people die because they can't afford the medicine because some guy bought the patent and raised the price by 700%? All the market will bear, right? Good to know.
     
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