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"Victory" vs. "Win"?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Twirling Time, Oct 22, 2022.

  1. SixToe

    SixToe Well-Known Member

    Use of both and up are two others that get me.

    "We grilled up some pork chops."

    Both Joe and Jim ate pork chops.

    "He coached up those kids."

    Both Miranda and Crystal finished the race.

    "I called up" someone. Wrote up the report. Fixed up the yard. Cleaned up for the trip. Packed up for the flight. Changed up the den furniture. Drove up to the house.

    I get that they're widely used and won't be eradicated. Still unnecessary in almost all instances, though.
     
  2. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

    I think the battle against using win as a noun is one you will never victory.
     
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  3. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    Slapnuts, a wide receiver out of from East Podunk High ...
     
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  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Many of the things mentioned here drive me nuts, but they are part of our spoken language now. People use up to modify a verb ("coached up") annoys me. Adding ass to an adjective does it, too. Somebody makes a stupid-ass decision or they are a slow-ass driver. I do encounter people, not professional writers, who write like that. It occurs to me that they may be dumb-ass writers.

    I try to remind myself that languages are not static. They are living things that change over time. Then I think, "Fuck those dumb-ass fuckers fucking up English!"
     
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  5. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Is it just me, or does the term "difference-maker" bug the hell out of you? I feel like you can make a difference, but don't be a difference-maker.
     
  6. Brian J Walter

    Brian J Walter Well-Known Member

    Where does everyone stand on "felt up"?
     
  7. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    I say it's fantastic, whether you're the felt-up-er or the felt-up-ee. Bonus points if you're both at the same time.
     
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  8. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    There's another word for that, though.
     
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  9. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    I couldn't give two shits over win vs victory. M-W has it as a verb first and then a noun. So use it; don't use it. I couldn't care less. What does get my goad is when people use won instead of beat or defeat. Kids do this a lot but some adults do it too because they don't correct their kids and they start saying it.

    No, you didn't "won them." That means they were the prize for your victory. You defeated them.
     
  10. Justin Biebler

    Justin Biebler Active Member

    The word verse comes to mind.
    My daughters: Dad are the Browns versing the Bengals today? No, honey, they play the Bengals.
    I've seen verse used in local sports copy the past few years.
    My wife got ticked when I would take a red pen and remove redundant words from papers she wrote while working toward her doctorate, turning a five page paper into four.
    NOTE: Upon reading my original post, I trimmed eight words non needed. ;)
     
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  11. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Maybe The Athletic's new Yankees writer will use plated as a verb in his/her/pronoun's gamers.
     
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  12. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Can deal with changing language like 'coach up' more than people not knowing how the f to write what they say - such as could of, would of.
     
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