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Exactly. America sucks right now.

 

When is the last time the Republicans had a stance, a bill, a platform on immigration, other than trying to keep all the brown people out?

Like most other issues, their program is "The Democrats are doing it wrong". Offering a better reasoned alternative is not on the menu.

 

The new Vermont Democrat in a nutshell.

 

"progressive" is doing a lot of work in that sentence.

 

The Democratic stance on immigration is, as usual there, a welter of different voices. But what're they gonna do when "treating migrants with at least some standard of decency" is considered "soft" on the issue? When "upholding international treaties on asylum our country signed" is seen as "dangerously soft"?

 

This is the GOP platform in its entirety from their website:

Republicans believe in liberty, economic prosperity, preserving American values and traditions, and restoring the American dream for every citizen of this great nation. As a party, we support policies that seek to achieve those goals.
Our platform is centered on stimulating economic growth for all Americans, protecting constitutionally-guaranteed freedoms, ensuring the integrity of our elections, and maintaining our national security. We are working to preserve America's greatness for our children and grandchildren.
The Republican Party's legacy -- we were originally founded in 1854 for the purpose of ending slavery -- compels us to patriotically defend America's values. As the left attempts to destroy what makes America great, the Republican Party is standing in the breach to defend our nation and way of life.

If you search GOP Platform, the link you get is from the 2016 convention, and it's a 66-page PDF.

 

Don't think this poll tells the story, but this is too good to pass up. The lede in Politico's article on its last pre-election poll was "Voters are ready to punish Biden, Democrats on economy." Fair enough. The Politico poll results? Democrats 48-Republicans 43. Article calls poll "an outlier." That may be so, but then why the hell put it in the article if you don't believe it?

 

Immigration is the perfect right wing/FNC issue. There is no easy answer unless you want to take drastic actions like closing the border. It’s also the perfect bogeyman, because you can point to crimes committed by people in the country improperly as proof that the Dems are allowing criminals to enter. Any because there is very little reliable data, you can just blame every ill on illegal immigrants.

 

If the border were truly open, nobody would be apprehended at the border. No drugs would be prevented from coming into the country. Saying the border is open is obviously not true. Do some immigrants and drugs get through? Yes, but police don’t stop everyone they see speeding.

 

A friend this weekend said this great retort about "illegals" and "crime",

How many white men have raped/murdered/assaulted US citizens?
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Yep the non-voting illegals are the perfect scapegoat.

 

So the economy was lousy from 1968 to, say, 1991/1992?