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Elon Musk takes over Twitter

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Alma, Apr 25, 2022.

  1. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member


     
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  2. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

  3. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    After blocking and muting top-feed ads, today I'm getting promoted tweets from a guy representing the "mistreated" J6 defendants and a woman talking about the CIA manipulating social media. Fun! Those are fun to block.
     
  4. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  5. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    So, at some point the default Twitter feed changed to include posts "liked" by people you follow. (I'm not sure when this happened -- I strictly follow a list I created and almost never look at the basic feed.)

    Anyway, this evening I was on the default feed for a moment and saw that an acquaintance had "liked" something kind of... odd. I went to his profile page, where on his bio he describes himself as a devoted husband and follower of Christ along with detailing his professional work.

    Then I clicked the "liked" tab to see what he's into on Twitter. Turns out dude is heavily into Q Anon politics, trans women and incest porn. Like, REALLY into the last two. Posts that I didn't realize were allowed on Twitter.

    So, a reminder to anyone who needs to hear this: If you have a Twitter account under your real name with your real photo listing your workplace, it's worth remembering that anyone can easily track the posts you "like" on Twitter. Anyone who follows him on Twitter now knows he digs posts from a young lady insisting "I had no idea how much my baby brother had GROWN!" along with an accompanying video.
     
  6. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

    Doc Rivers could have used this advice last year
     
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  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I like Surowiecki a lot. But there is a more straightforward way to look at this. We are in a rising rate environment, and the Fed is making a halting attempt to drain its balance sheet. A decade plus of them blowing a bubble created a lot of distortions in markets, and in the manias all the liquidity they unleashed set loose, the things that ran up in value the most irrationally were things with no earnings, a ton of debt. ... and a story.

    Most of those "story" stocks were getting clobbered for most of 2022 as rates rose. Tesla was holding up relatively well. It was primed to play catch up to lose the value that most stocks like it had already given back. Tesla was holding up (on a relative basis -- it was already getting hit before he bought Twitter) not for any fundamental reason, but because financial conditions are still incredibly loose, even with the little bit of tightening the Fed has done. And Tesla was always going to be one of the last things to fall. It was the highest flyer of them all, and because it was the thickest tree, it was proving to be the hardest to chop down.

    If (and it still is an if) financial conditions continue to tighten, Tesla was going to go. ... regardless of Musk and Twitter. But sure, his behavior has been the catalyst. It was a bubble that needs to be popped waiting for that catalyst, and he has been giving it to the market.

    It's still just a car company, one that is seeing demand problems and increasing competition, and is now hitting its own margins (which admittedly were amazing the last 2 years) by discounting prices. But it was absurd when it was trading at 190 times earnings. And it's still absurd trading at 35 times earnings (even after it has lost 68 percent of its value), as he points out. Get the stock down to the kind of valuation other car companies have, and it is a $25 stock. If demand continues to fall off, and you see it in its earnings, it could objectively be worth less than that. And Musk's antics have nothing to do with it. Stocks are discounting mechanisms. ... discounting future earnings. Stocks only trade on the antics (positive or negative) of a cult figure, and disregard those earnings, in distorted monetary environments that create bubbles and unleash the monetary inflation into places like risk assets. In that environment, sure, the stock is subject to volatility based on the behavior of the cult figure. So in that regard, his behavior is hurting the stock. But it was an inevitability that the stock was not going to stay a bubble forever, and in a rising rate environment, in which the Fed is draining some of the insane liquidity it spent more than a decade pumping into markets, at a certain point the bubble was going to pop with or without him and the Twitter mess.
     
  9. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    Welp....

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  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

  11. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member

  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    HEY GUESS WHAT

     
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