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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

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  1. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Lol. A fine. That’ll learn ‘em!
     
    Regan MacNeil, Mar 20, 2023
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  2. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    He looked 14!!
     
    Starman, Mar 20, 2023
    #55046
  3. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Yeah, well, be that as it may, the idea that the Arkansas bill will put kids to work in third shift meat packing plants is off base.
     
    Alma, Mar 20, 2023
    #55047
  4. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Seriously?

    https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/...-amid-national-push-to-ease-child-labor-rules

    On Friday, the U.S. Department of Labor announced that they discovered 102 children ages 13-17 working overnight shifts in plants in Arkansas and across the country. Those young workers were tasked with cleaning up caustic chemicals and sanitizing saws and other processing equipment. Four of those children were working at George’s Inc. in Batesville, and six of them were working at a Tyson facility in Green Forest.
     
    Azrael, Mar 20, 2023
    #55048
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  5. Octave

    Octave Well-Known Member

    The Imus monkey army - that's where I recognize this guy. Thank you much.

    He's like any number of boisterous clowns I've known in my life, except they didn't get half an hour with Ari Melber.

    'empty tin cans make the most noise and you know what buddy, that's what you are - you're an empty tin can'
    -M. Ditka, 1989
     
    Octave, Mar 20, 2023
    #55049
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  6. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    The most effective manipulation of history may be the way we hear so little about labor history. I’m guessing I am far from alone in never having formal lessons about the Matewan Massacre, the Colorado mine wars, the sugar trust overthrowing the Hawaiian royal government, the Elaine Massacre, the Battle of the Overpass, etc.
     
    dixiehack, Mar 20, 2023
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  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Those children (I hesitate to say all of them because I don't kn0w that as a fact) were migrants; unaccompanied minors who had recently came across the southern border (what the press release that story links to from the Department of Labor leaves out).

    They were not kids who would have been (or ever will be) applying for working papers in the state of Arkansas.
     
    The Big Ragu, Mar 20, 2023
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  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    The bill makes legal what these companies were already willing to do illegally.

    Migrant or no - as a matter of conscience or ethical practice - doesn't matter.
     
    Azrael, Mar 20, 2023
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  9. Octave

    Octave Well-Known Member

    some very délicieux takes from Dan Bongino, author of more books than Socrates.
     
    Octave, Mar 20, 2023
    #55053
  10. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Kids doing jobs adults won't, or shouldn't, do.
     
    HanSenSE, Mar 20, 2023
    #55054
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    People are creating this ridiculous narrative of kids who would otherwise be safe in school being pulled from school to do dangerous work.

    The path that brought those children to meat packing plants in Arkansas and Nebraska and Kansas started in El Salvador, Guatemala or Honduras with extreme poverty, food insecurity, some recent weather events that have created devastating economic havoc. ... and daily violence that makes those kids' lives extremely unsafe back home.

    That is the alternative their families were staring at. ... that ended with those kids in the U.S. working in meat packing plants.

    From their perspective, I would not be surprised if they see it as their kids being safer in the U.S. with the people they are living with (who usually have some link to the family), and on top of it. ... they are sending money back home (there is zero economic opportunity where they came from and people are desperate) that is making a huge difference.

    If you want to frame it as a matter of conscience, I get it. Nobody wants to see kids working in a meat-packing plant, working with caustic chemicals.

    At the same time, nobody wants to see whole families living in extreme poverty, in areas dominated by violent gangs, in El Salvador.

    People need to consider that there is a reason why they themselves might be choosing the meat-packing plants with the horrible set of actual choices they have.
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2023
    The Big Ragu, Mar 20, 2023
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  12. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member

    Yet, if those same kids were in n Minnesota, they would be in school and eligible for free lunches. It’s about priorities.
     
    Brooklyn Bridge, Mar 20, 2023
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