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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    When you was slaves, you sang like birds!!


     
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2023
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  2. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Alabama got around to some light editing on passages like these around 1970 or so.

    https://birminghamwatch.org/know-alabama-justified-slavery-praised-confederacy-schoolchildren/
     
  3. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

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  4. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    That letter says he is willing to do whatever it takes to save the Union and full on emancipating slaves wasn’t going to achieve that goal nor was he sure leaving the status quo would do it either. But then he leaves room for his mind to be changed by suggesting he would follow new ideas if those new ideas prove truthful.

    He had, by then, a draft of the Emancipation Proclamation in his desk but he was waiting for the right time to sign it. He knew such a move would hurt relations with the border states that stayed despite having slaves.

    So I guess you could suggest this shows he was concerned about other things than slavery as a cause of the Civil War. It is also possible to see it as a tease for people to see he was about to change policy. Being mindful of the fact to that point, everything that had been tried to prevent war was to preserve the Constitution and the Union and Lincoln was carrying on in that tradition. But at each of those steps, the central fight was slavery. The economics of it, the expansion of it, the ability to profit from it. All came from slavery. To suggest otherwise is buying into the dismissive narrative that paints the South as victims of war and were some how standing up to tyranny. They weren’t. They were about denying freedom and were resistant to any measure that would prevent them from continuing that legacy. Sure “not everyone owned slaves” as some claim, but enough did.
     
  5. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    I ain't never seen a Confederate flag next to a Biden one. Lost track of how many I seen next to a Trump one.
     
  6. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

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  7. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Lift a stein to dear old Maine ...
     
  8. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    Do you have this programmed as a smart key at this point? It’d save you lots of typing.
     
  9. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    This just allows the Trumpists to, once again, claim they’re being victimized. It’s a net neutral IMO.
     
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  10. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

    should he have said something about slavery
     
  11. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    Rule of Law 2, Stinky 1, end first inning. #BATS
     
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  12. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    I generally agree, especially considering I think it won't matter as SCOTUS will end up ruling that trump can be on every state ballot.

    BUT, it does serve a couple of major purposes. One, it's a valid Constitutional argument, not a frivolous one, that NEEDS an answer one way or the other for future generations.

    And two, "trump" and "insurrectionist" need to be repeated together over and over again for the 90% the country that isn't paying attention right now. Or has memory-holed the events from Biden being declared the winner through the disgusting day of Jan. 6.
     
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