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Dear dimwit on the phone

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Starman, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Lisrimgs go great with covfefe.
     
  2. MNgremlin

    MNgremlin Active Member

    We have had COACHES make similar complaints in the past. Both good teams, football and cross country. What it came down to for us is football plays half of their games at home, while cross country never ran within our coverage area.
     
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  3. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    We deal with that as well. Almost as big an issue is when cross country runs -- at 8 or 9 a.m. Saturday morning, after I got home at 2:30 or 3 a.m from football the night before.
    Sorry, folks. That ain't happening.
     
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  4. Spartan Squad

    Spartan Squad Well-Known Member

    I always appeased cross country by making sure I got in touch with coaches for results. I think they got it that it was inherently difficult to sit there and watch a meet that would be way out of town or had runners going into the hills. So they were great about getting me times and comments and I'd eventually do features on the top runners who were competing for sectionals. Occasionally I'd pop over if they were local and snap photos of the end of one race and the beginning of another. My biggest issue was always juggling the school everyone wanted to read about with the small ones only a handful cared about.
     
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  5. fossywriter8

    fossywriter8 Well-Known Member

    Our paper takes pics at a variety of events every season — football, golf, volleyball, tennis, soccer, basketball, wrestling, swimming, track, baseball, softball.
    We have bylined and roundup stories on football each week.
    We'll do bylined stories a few times each week on basketball, baseball and softball. The closer the event is to the office, the better.
    Roundups on all the others unless it's something special, like a league meet or the postseason. Luckily, we can find much of the cross country, track and wrestling stuff online.
    We used to cover more regular season events in person, but things like less staff and earlier deadlines over the past few years have made it more and more difficult. The days of driving 90 minutes away for a mid-week, non-conference game or meet ended a long time ago.
    I know many in the general public are too dumb to realize two things about football vs. all the other sports:
    1) Generally speaking, more people care about football than any other sport. Basketball can be a close second, school by school, but the driving force is almost always football.
    2) Football is once a week while the other sports compete multiple times each week. Like economics, supply and demand drive the market.
     
  6. MNgremlin

    MNgremlin Active Member

    We get a lot of coverage questions from the SID of the local D2 school. The school has a decent following, but our online numbers show that those stories just don't get the same number of clicks as prep sports. I've tried to push coverage of the school from gamers and previews (essentially regurgitated press releases, without quotes) to more features, but publisher/ME is pushing our sports staff more toward slashing coverage altogether, which doesn't jive with the SID.

    Admittedly, I'm biased as an alum of the school. I don't necessarily get to make those overarching decisions, as my involvement is more in design over coverage decisions. But I've been at the paper longer than almost anyone in the newsroom, and I feel like I have a good read on the region and what could help the coverage.
     
  7. MTM

    MTM Well-Known Member

    Every. Freaking. Year.
    My agency shows free movies in the park. The social meeting flier states the movie starts at dusk. Since we found out many people don't know what "dusk" means, the copy on the post states the movie will start when it gets dark.
    So what's the first question always? What time does the movie start?
    My boss tells me I can't reply "ask Mother Nature."
     
  8. maumann

    maumann Well-Known Member

    "Stand outside with your arms straight out. When you can't see your fingers, the movie's about to start."
     
  9. Kolchak

    Kolchak Active Member

    Do you ever have readers who suggest you do something that you already do, and then when they see it they think they're responsible for it and start suggesting more ideas?
     
  10. Kolchak

    Kolchak Active Member

    Every couple years we get a reader who thinks he sees something that no one else does and calls us up to exclaim, "No field goal or extra point should ever count since the holder's knee is down!"
     
  11. SixToe

    SixToe Well-Known Member

    Y'all should do that story and quote him by name, so he'll feel good about making his case public, and then get state, college and NFL refs to explain why he's wrong.
     
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  12. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    You can tell him, "Get the NFHS rule book and see Rule 4, Section 2, Article 2, Exceptions (4-2-2 Exc.)." Also, "Get the NCAA rule book and see Rule 4, Section 1, Article 3, subset b, exception (4-1-3b Exc.).
     
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