President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Rule 1: Don't piss off your probation officer, under any circumstance. Don't talk back, don't argue, don't think you're going to have any say in what happens next. Shut up and listen.

Actually, Trump should be damn worried about the probation officer, not the other way around. They have the ability to make sure you do exactly what's required per the court's request, and if you play the game, everything goes smoothly. If you don't, FAFO.

With a conviction, Trump just lost his Fourth Amendment rights, so any officer can now show up, at any time anywhere, without probable cause and do a search of him, his belongings and his premises without needing a warrant. And even better, he or she reports directly to the court and any BS will not tolerated, no matter who you are or what you did before you landed in their custody.

 

I'm certain he will. He better be careful about what he says or he may regret it a great deal.

 

Like, if literally, a 34-felony count on a guy is what makes people say, yes, YES, this is who I want to lead my country! I no longer want to share a country with you. Gotta find a golf job in Europe.

 

Yes, all of the above, especially leaving the state. I had to have a judge approve a trip to New Orleans for a family cruise, had to have the papers signed by a New Orleans police officer and return them to the probation officer by the approved date.

I had a total of three different officers during my four years. I had the initial evaluation in the probation office. Then each made an unscheduled visit during daylight hours to do a followup, then came randomly and less frequently after I completed the community service requirement.

If the probation officer believes there is sufficient reason to search or drug test, you either comply or go to jail/prison. You have zero rights once the conviction is handed down.

Now, I don't know what the procedure is in this instance with a time frame between conviction and sentencing. But I'm certain disobeying the court's decision is a really bad idea.

In a way, I hope Trump believes himself to be above the law and winds up violating his probation.

 

What’s the difference between sufficient reason and probable cause in a 4th amendment/search warrant situation?

 

Breakfast Club!

 

No probation officer is going to cross Trump. The job sucks bad enough as it is. There’s one of him and half a dozen Secret Service agents on the other side. By now, they’re making it plain that their loyalty is to the protectee rather than the law.

 

The Walking Dead in real life …

 

A probation officer needs no probable cause to ask you to submit to drug testing or enter your dwelling. If they want in, you comply. If they want a sample, you comply.

But they usually only go to that trouble if you were convicted on DUI, possession, trafficking, weapons charges or have previous convictions for similiar offenses. They don't care about 58-year-old white guys who get beat up by old people over a motorhome.

And yeah, New York could have a different set of rules. But the basics are the same in every state: no alcohol or drugs, no weapons, no travel, no protection against search and seizure.