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President Biden: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    If Trump was a Saxon king from the 800s, he'd be known as Donald the Unaccountable.
     
  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    That may be the worst part of this. As a nation, we just handed incredible power to a man with no morals at all and told him to do whatever the hell he wants because there will never be any consequences for him.
     
  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    So because people are mad about the price of eggs (I actually believe they're mad about the pandemic and its impact) I have to worry that my grandson might get polio or whooping cough. I can't even. In GW Bush's first term we had 9/11 and the Iraq War. In the second term, we still had the Iraq War and then a global financial collapse. Trump's first term was highlighted by a plague. Wonder what the second will bring.
     
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  4. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Tester loses.
     
  5. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    THEY WERE WRONG.
     
  6. UNCGrad

    UNCGrad Well-Known Member

    It wasn't even a coin flip.
     
  7. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    Four years? Bullshit. More like a couple of days in August.
     
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  8. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    So, what did matter? Just my two cents and I admit I could be completely wrong.

    Economy. Clearly the top issue. Inflation is still lingering and wages for the most part not keeping up. And that trickles down to everything: Groceries, housing, etc.

    Immigration. The border is a problem. He ran on his usual populism and she couldn't shed that she's been in the administration for four year and things have gotten worse.

    Messaging. Harris only had three months as the candidate and there was a lot of, "I'm not that guy" and "Nazi," "Fascism," etc. and not enough of "This is what I'm going to change." She had to walk a very fine line because of Biden and couldn't thread the needle.

    Biden. Very unpopular. Polls show the country is on the wrong track. Like it or not, Harris was tied to him as the status quo candidate in the Biden-Harris administration. He should have dropped out a year ago and had a true Democrat primary.
     
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  9. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Went to bed with two Tylenols hoping to wake up in a better mood. Tossed and turned for a couple of hours. Took a third Tylenol. Dozed off for two hours. Woke up again. Wife tells me to put the friggen phone away. Doze off for another hour until the cat wakes me up.

    Still in a bad mood.

    Like, What The Fuck, America?

    That Guy? We could have been rid of him for good at any time in the last four years. Could have been rid of him again permanently tonight. Gotten rid of the criminal activity. Gotten rid of the selfishness. Gotten rid of the doom and gloom. Gotten rid of the alternate facts; the “truth isn’t truth”. Gotten rid of the grift. The Republicans could lick their wounds and could get a fresh start with a candidate who many of us would disagree with; but at least respect that they love their country first instead of themselves. Nope.

    I’m in a blue state. My purple district just actually re-elected our Dem Congressman rather handily when it was expected to be a fight. I have a unionized government job with government benefits. My wife makes more money than me and a really good living. My oldest graduated college, is in his early 20s, works his ass off and makes roughly double what I make. I live in a decent sized town, which, while it has some typical problems (high housing prices, ridiculously high rents, drugs, mediocre school district), also is quite prosperous and growing. I’m a white, heterosexual man. Other than my religion, I shouldn’t have much to fear. I realize I’m not the underdog here.

    And yet, I’m sad. For a gay relative, who I’m not close to, and likely has some mental health problems of his own, who worried that he’s going to be treated like absolute shit. For my female co-workers, who, though we try to tip-toe around the subject of politics at work, pretty much hinted they may take the day off from work today if That Guy won. For my mother, who is in her early 80s and will likely never see a female president. For all those who’ve been dealing with oppression. For all those who will be treated like crap in the future.

    I’m glad, though, in a way. I’d rather That Guy win the popular vote instead of backing in to the presidency again with an antiquated system that no other country in the world has. At least it can be said that this time, The People have actually spoken. They chose That Guy.

    Very well. Unlike the nut jobs in That Guy’s party, I’ll accept the decision. I won’t scream about the election being rigged, even though there were bomb threats. I won’t march in protest of the result.

    But I will be watching. And when That Guy fucks up, and yes, he will be fucking up, I’ll be mocking him. I won’t get mad at the GOP treating women like crap; treating LGBTQ people like shit, deporting millions of brown skinned people elsewhere, shoving their religion down everyone else’s throats, fucking up Social Security and Medicare They told us what they are going to do.

    And The People apparently are fine with it. Very well. Don’t come crying to me when they fuck up the economy. Don’t come crying to me when prices go up because you shipped the brown people away. Don’t come crying to me that your insurance no longer will cover your treatments because you have a pre-existing condition. Don’t come crying to me when your kids get mowed down in schools or at a concert by a guy with an AR-15. Sorry, you didn’t want my thoughts before, don’t see the need for prayers; you voted for this and I didn’t.

    And Media. Yeah, I’m looking at you. I used to be one of you. I used to defend a lot of you, when a politician would complain, figuring they’re just blaming you instead of taking responsibility for what they got caught at. No longer. I’m tired of the laziness. The useless speculation. The horse race coverage. The both-sidesism. The sane-washing. I used to be sympathetic when That Guy called you “fake news”. No longer, because of how you acted here. Some of you were even unwillingly to take a stand. No more sympathy if someone doesn’t give you access, or takes away your credential. Your credibility with me is permanently tarnished.

    And at some point, unless The People are somehow fine with a dictatorship and cancelled elections, we’ll be doing this all again in 2028. I’ll root like hell for whoever the Dem candidate is. But I’m not going to ever forgive or forget what happened here. I’m just out of fucks to give.
     
  10. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    I've been lucky all my life. Caught every break you could imagine. Grew up in a great family, found a career I loved due to the encouragement of others, had a wonderful woman take me for a.partner, two great children who became great adults thanks to their mother I"'d say 80 percent (I did contribute a little. Everything good that's happened to me has been due to other people, all the fuckups have been mine alone. That's why I'm a Democrat. I believe everyone needs help and its best for everyone if as a society we try to provide it. But let's face it. This election America had a majority of selfish people who resent it if anyone gets something they don't, or think they don't. I'm going to look askance at strangers for some time to come now. I'm not going to be as open or try to make new friends or just act friendly in general. I can't trust my fellow citizens, not anymore.
     
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  11. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    I'm so dispirited. Exhausted.

    I thought most of the U.S. was better than the crackers in Alabama.

    I was wrong. Project 2025, here we come. I only have one child, and he has had no children. At least I am spared that fear.

    Fuck 'em.
     
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  12. Kato

    Kato Well-Known Member

    I went to bed at 12:30 a.m. Central. There was still a slim chance of PA and WI coming through, but it only with a Hail Mary. I spend the last 15 minutes awake texting with my daughter, a freshman in college, who voted for the first time and is gay. She’s scared. I did what a good dad would do and told her she’s going to be fine; everything’s going to be OK. But I don’t know if I believe that.

    I’m so mad and sad this morning. I don’t know what went wrong. Is this on Biden? Harris? The Dems, in general? The media, who shrugged at this guys madness while insisting she talk to them more and detail her policies?
     
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