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Trans athletes and NCAA

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by HanSenSE, Oct 3, 2024.

  1. Patchen

    Patchen Well-Known Member

    I'm against former men playing women's sports in high school/college. But if Riley Gaines etc. really want to take on an issue ruining women's sports, they should look at how many students can't afford club volleyball, basketball, softball etc. and how that hurts those sports in high schools.
     
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  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Now, now. That would require some introspection about one’s privilege. Can’t have that.
     
  3. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Saturday's Nevada-SJSU match was shifted from Reno to San Jose, citing security concerns.

    Also, Brooke Slusser named MW Player of the Week. Averaging 8.25 assists, 1.5 kills, 2.88 digs and 0.38 blocks per set in two Spartan wins last week.
     
  4. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure it is a shift. The conversation has been a mess. You have a vocal minority on the liberal side that is far too quick to label people transphobic. You also have bigots referring to transgender women as men. It is not transphobic to suggest that transgender women should not be able to compete in women's events at the NCAA, Olympic, and/or professional level. It is transphobic to refer to them as males or biological males. Riley Gaines, for example, isn't a bigot because she doesn't think transgender women should be competing with cisgender women. She is a bigot because she uses language that denies the identity of transgender women. She is a bigot because she insists on referring to them as men.
     
  6. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    That definition strikes the perfect balance. Bravo.
     
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  7. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The editorial is not a mess, though.. That’s why I’m saying it’s a potential shift.
     
  8. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    Jesus — has there ever been such a ridiculously overblown issue as this? To the point that it is one of the top policy issues of the incoming administration.

    I have a kid who is trans. I’m not going to lie and say that I have been perfect or even very good at times in terms of dealing with his issues. Despite my best intentions, I get his name and pronouns wrong too many times and I’m not as comfortable discussing the matter with my friends as I probably should be. But I’m trying because I love my kid and it took a tremendous amount of courage to live publicly as a man.

    No one is getting gender reassignment surgery to play sports. Period. I am totally fine with saying that people born as men shouldn’t play women’s sports (or that the barrier should be very high). That’s because unlike most things in our society, women’s sports exist to deal with the inherent physical advantages which men have. I also think that the NCAA bungled the Lia Thomas matter and the results were unfair to the other swimmers.

    But let’s be really clear. This isn’t about sports. It’s about bigotry against the bogeyman of trans people. It’s harder to publicly call Amy from Jeopardy some sort of freak because you would look like an asshole as it is to pretend to be concerned about some swimmers whom you have never heard of. They don’t want trans people to exist.

    Because the issue is complicated and Democrats didn't want to get bogged down in the matter, it became acceptable to tell the lies like Trump that kids come home from school having gender reassignment surgery without their parent’s knowledge or lies like Vance that trans kids are pretending to be a different gender to get into a better college.

    It’s hard to believe that we live in a country this hateful but we do.
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2024
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Thank you for sharing that. It has to be infuriating to the parent of a trans person. I'm sure most of us saw that disgusting campaign commercial Trump used on this issue. I should know better, but I just couldn't get past how blatantly offensive it was.
     
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  10. ChrisLong

    ChrisLong Well-Known Member

    Dammit, I wrote here a couple of years ago that I didn't think teenagers were lining up to get sex-change operations so they could run cross country in high school. I didn't think it needed to be said (as it pertained to Trump's campaign ads) that prisoners were demanding sex-change operations. Voters weren't that dumb, I erroneously thought.
     
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  11. mateen

    mateen Well-Known Member

    I am a bit surprised that the situation with San Jose State volleyball, which is really taking some turns now, is not getting more attention (I realize the election overshadowed it but was also surprised it wasn't directly made into an election issue).
     
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  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure one article qualifies as a shift in the discussion.
     
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