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Ukraine Always Get What You Want

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by TigerVols, Feb 12, 2022.

  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Yeah, it seemed pretty confusing. I was like, “why is Chechnya helping Russia when Russia just bombed them?”
     
  2. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Don't know about the veracity of this information, but if true I salute all of our American girls doing their part.

     
  3. three_bags_full

    three_bags_full Well-Known Member

    Damnit. Now my anime search is going to be skewed.
     
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  4. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  5. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

  6. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    As fun as it is to blow up Russians and Russian stuff, was anyone paying attention that we just crossed another red line we said we wouldn't ever cross?

     
  7. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    I say we give them whatever we can between now and Jan 20 when we start giving it to Russia.
     
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  8. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member


    How come Russia attacking Ukraine with weapons not built in Russia is OK, but Ukraine attacking Russia with weapons not built in Ukraine is bad?

    Also: You voted for Donald Trump, who told us he would have this war solved in 24 hours, before he even took office.

    Any movement on that?
     
  9. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    I think there's been plenty of "Not OK!" responses to NK helping Russia.
     
  10. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member


    I mean sure.

    The only people who aren't saying it are Russians, and Trump voters who think we should let Russia steamroll Ukraine.
     
  11. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Of course those things are bad. They are escalations, and us allowing Ukraine to use our weapons — and likely giving them targeting information — to hit targets inside of Russia is another big one. Especially after we've said for months that doing so would be a big escalation, and then it happens out of the blue on a Sunday morning with no explanation why and there is barely a peep about it.
    So my main concern right now is a lame duck president — or whoever is running the government at the moment — pushing us into World War III and possibly a nuclear war on his way out the door. This is at least the third red line that we've crossed that Biden himself said would constitute World War III (giving Ukraine Abrams tanks, then F-16s, and now this). Along with our move, the Russians lowered their threshold for scenarios in which using a nuke is considered an appropriate response. That seems suboptimal. I'm not being a Russian apologist, I'm simply looking at it realistically and wondering how many more of those lines we can cross before a nuke is launched.
    Like with the lead-up to a lot of wars, it seems like there's a lot of willful insanity happening here that we'll look back on and say, "What in the HELL were they thinking!?" Maybe it's just me, but that's worrisome.

    Hell, maybe we're already in World War III and just haven't formally acknowledged it as such. You have at least three clear adversaries in an alliance on one side (Russia, North Korea, Iran, and the Houthis/Hamas), and a clear alliance on the other (NATO/Europe, the U.S., Israel and South Korea) already formed up. The ones who aren't already shooting at each other are doing it by proxy. Maybe we should just STFU and embrace the apocalypse since it seems inevitable at this point.
     
  12. I Should Coco

    I Should Coco Well-Known Member

    If the apocalypse is inevitable, I guess I can have that doughnut for breakfast after all.

    Seriously, I think a lot of people forgot and/or overlooked developments in the Russia-Ukraine war amid the Middle East chaos and an election focused on other issues. It does have the potential to devolve into a regional and worldwide war.
     
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