All Purpose UFC/MMA/That Kind Of Thing Thread

Re: "60 Minutes" piece on UFC/MMA

Mr Sole,

Re: posting on this thread. As a child I was told I'd go blind -- not that it stopped me. I am tempted by nothing other than temptation. I would not post on this thread if I was any good at crossword puzzles--really it's only a measure of how much spare time I have. Zealotry ... hardly. The fact is, I have no interests, no friends and only bills to pay. Please allow me my single amusement.

Your Pathetic Servant, etc

 

Re: "60 Minutes" piece on UFC/MMA

Rather than waste my time googling the 15 names you cite, how about just posting the fighters officially listed by UFC at their own website? You can work out the ratio of Hinkles to Hironakas at your own convenience. The question stands.

Abbadi Danny
Aldana Gilbert
Alessio John
Alves Thiago
Arlovski Andrei
Assuncao Junior
Baroni Phil
Belcher Alan
Belfort Vitor
Bisping Michael
Bonnar Stephan
Brown Mike
Buentello Paul
Burkman Josh
Byrnes Steve
Carter Shonie
Chalangov Ansar
Christison Dan
Clark Logan
Clementi Rich
Combs Wes
Cope Kit
Cote Patrick
Couture Randy
Cruz Marcio
Cummo Luke
Davis Marcus
Davis Rick
Dent Jason
DeSouza Tony
Dewees Edwin
Diaz Nick
Doerksen Joe
Eastman Marvin
Edwards Yves
Eilers Justin
Evans Rashad
Fickett Drew
Fioravanti Luigi
Fisher Spencer
Fitch Jon
Florian Kenny
Forbes Jesse
Franca Hermes
Franklin Rich
Freeman Ian
Gannon Sean
Garcia Leonard
Gassaway Brian
Gonzaga Gabriel
Goulet Jonathan
Gouveia Wilson
Gracie Royce
Griffin Forrest
Griffin Tyson
Grove Kendall
Guida Clay
Guillard Melvin
Gurgel Jorge
Hallman Dennis
Hamill Matt
Hardonk Antoni
Haynes Josh
Hazelett Dustin
Healy Pat
Heath David
Herman Ed
Hieron Jay
Hinkle Branden Lee
Hironaka Kuniyoshi
Hoger Sam
Hominick Mark
Horn Jeremy
Huerta Roger
Hughes Matt
Hutcherson Solomon
Imes Brad
Irvin James
Jackson Jeremy
James Justin
Jardine Keith
Jhun Ronald
Jordan Kevin
Jordan Joe
Joslin Jeff
Kampmann Martin
Karalexis Alex
Kongo Cheick
Koscheck Josh
Kunihara Keigo
Kyle Mike
Lambert Jason
Larenas Icho
Larson Brock
Lauzon Dan
Lauzon Joe
Lawler Robbie
Leben Chris
Lee David
Leites Thales
Levens Justin
Liddell Chuck
Lister Dean
Loiseau David
Ludwig Duane
Lutter Travis
Lytle Chris
MacDonald Rob
MacDonald Jason
Mahood Bill
Marquardt Nate
Marrero Carmelo
Marsh John
Martin Terry
McCarthy Charles
McFedries Drew
McGee Gan
Menne Dave
Midoux Christophe
Miller Jason
Mir Frank
Mishima Dokonjonosuke
Monson Jeff
Morgan Sammy
Murphy Tom
Murray Lee
Nakamura Keita
Neer Josh
Neto Mario
Newton Jeff
Nickels Mike
Noble Derrick
O'Brien Jake
Okami Yushin
Ortiz Tito
Parisyan Karo
Pellegrino Kurt
Pendergarst Sherman
Penn BJ
Perosh Anthony
Petruzelli Seth
Petz Forrest
Pointon Ross
Prangley Trevor
Price Chris
Pulver Jens
Quarry Nate
Ramirez Hector
Ray Gideon
Reinhardt Jason
Riggs Joe
Riley Aaron
Rivera Jorge
Rizzo Pedro
Rockel Keith
Rothaermel Kristian
Ruediger Gabe
Sakara Alessio
Salaverry Ivan
Salmon Sean
Sanchez Eddie
Sanchez Diego
Santiago Jorge
Sasaki Yuki
Schafer Eric
Schall Kerry
Scherner Fabiano
Schockman Josh
Sell Pete
Serra Matt
Shamrock Ken
Sherk Sean
Silva Assuerio
Silva Anderson
Sims Wes
Singer Rory
Sinosic Elvis
Smith Scott
Sobral Renato
Sonnen Chael
Spratt Pete
St. Pierre Georges
Starnes Kalib
Stevenson Joe
Stout Sam
Sudo Genki
Swick Mike
Sylvia Tim
Tanner Evan
Telligman Tra
Terrell David
Thomas Din
Thompson Nick
Thomson Josh
Tibau Gleison
Torres Anthony
Trigg Frank
Valimaki Victor
Van Arsdale Mike
Varner Jamie
Vera Brandon
Vigneault Steve
Von Flue Jason
Wallace Crafton
Walmsley Cory
Wellisch Christian
White Vernon
Whitehead Mike
Wiezorek Jonathan
Wiman Matt
Wisniewski Keith
Wiuff Travis

 

Re: "60 Minutes" piece on UFC/MMA

Wow, that's a lot of names.
And I completely wasted five minutes of my life reading this thread.
But, take your fight to the AP and Vegas. Getting a betting line established, will make the sport more worthy of coverage. And when people start gambling on it, the AP will start covering it, or at least the big fights like they do boxing.

 

Re: "60 Minutes" piece on UFC/MMA

The three biggest MMA organisations in the world are Pride FC, K-1 Heroes and the UFC.

Two of the big three are based in Japan. The Asian fighters, the majority of them, are competing in Japan. Put it this way. On August 28, 2002 a super show put on by both Pride and K-1 drew 91,107 paying spectators to the Tokyo National Stadium. MMA is a very big in Japan. The Asian fighters don't tend to, on the whole, pop up on UFC cards because MMA is very big in Japan and they have no need to travel.

 

Re: "60 Minutes" piece on UFC/MMA

Thank you. That's all I was asking.

Are the fight rules the same in those other organizations? And are the fighters there, on the whole, better/worse/the same as our UFC fighters here?

 

Re: "60 Minutes" piece on UFC/MMA

Disciplines in martial arts reflect the practicing cultures view over the rules of ritualized combat. No need to go into the history of martial arts in each culture, the answer is simple. UFC started with the premise of having different disciplines fight, the rules were open so that the fights would be fair.

 

Re: "60 Minutes" piece on UFC/MMA

Vegas's biggest books have had betting lines on UFC for years.

 

Re: "60 Minutes" piece on UFC/MMA

is anyone going to win this argument? i'm betting no. or yes. i'm not sure.

 

Re: "60 Minutes" piece on UFC/MMA

You're right. Or wrong. I'm not sure. ;D

The thing people of niche sports (and yes UFC/MMA is still a niche sport) don't understand is how important the wire services are. You get Vegas AP to move some copy on UFC and I promise papers across the nation will run it.

 

Re: "60 Minutes" piece on UFC/MMA

True, but I have never seen them on the betting line that runs in any of the papers I have ever seen. When people start betting, they need to see the results the next day. If UFC gets put on the lines that run on the wires, then you'll start seeing next day results in the paper.
Until then, it is, at best, a circular argument.

 

Re: "60 Minutes" piece on UFC/MMA

Sirs, Madames,

I have seen the promised land: I am going to write stories about the UFC and MMA and nothing else. They are the only stories worth writing and the only stories worth reading. All other stories and sports are mere trivia. We have in UF and MMA the essence of the Darwinian saga. Nothing else could possibly matter. And the guys with the bad facial hair and tattoos are cool.

I have been saved!

YHS, etc

 

Re: "60 Minutes" piece on UFC/MMA

Wait, for this argument to be relevant wouldn't people who watch MMA/UFC have to be literate?
















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