Part 10 (final part) of McGwire story up on You Tube NOW

markvid · Jan 5, 2007

Re: Part one of McGwire story up on You Tube NOW

John D. Villarreal said:

You may think anything you want about me - but trust me I know exactly what I am doing.

John
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Which, I believe, is what John Hinckley told Jodie Foster. But I digress.

The Big Ragu · Jan 5, 2007

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John D. Villarreal said:

This is not how I want to get my name out more & there is really no way to make money off of this (honorably or ethically).
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May I state the obvious and suggest that if this is not how you want to get your name out there, you might start by wearing a T-shirt that doesn't have your name on it?

Angola! · Jan 5, 2007

Re: Part one of McGwire story up on You Tube NOW

Part 4 seems to try and justify the use of steroids. About 30 seconds into the video, the guy in the hat (the special guest) is trying to tell us steroids are a good thing. He seems to want to justify using steroids because it doesn't do anything for you unless you work out. So, apparently we should laud Big Mac because he continued to have a strong work ethic and wasn't just taking steroids and not working out.
Also, once Canseco's book was brought up like it was a good thing, the video lost me.

John D. Villarreal · Jan 5, 2007

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markvid said:

John D. Villarreal said:

PhilaYank36 said:

I couldn't even last more than 30 seconds. I really was holding out hope (I don't know why) that this would pan out to be something useful, but I can't get through that opening. John, I'm not going to hop on the bash-wagon, but you really need to cut through the BS-filler in your posts and vids. Remember that we are sports writers, not novel writers: our idea of a huge graph is four, maybe five sentences AT THE MOST. And give us the biggest, most important stuff right away. You want to tell us about yourself, fine, go ahead, but put it on a separate clip. You're losing a ton of people with all the extra, unnecessary stuff.
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I hear you & understand - but that is not what I wanted to do & I was upfront from the start about that. Look, I can cut a sweet byte as well as anyone but that does no justice to this story at all & will only get us right back to where we are with this whole thing.

Rather, I wanted to do this in a substantive way to try to do it & Mark justice. There is a lot of ground to cover (likely 10 parts in full) and this is just a primer.

Thus, I only wanted people who were going to be serious about this and take the time to gain the knowledge/advantage.

If that does not work for you I understand but I have misled nobody.

There is good info in the upcoming parts and scoops. You either choose to take the time or you don't.

In other subjects I am more than happy to accommodate your needs but the problem with this whole thing is people only want a salacious headline and a quick fix.
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John D. Villarreal said:

PhilaYank36 said:

I couldn't even last more than 30 seconds. I really was holding out hope (I don't know why) that this would pan out to be something useful, but I can't get through that opening. John, I'm not going to hop on the bash-wagon, but you really need to cut through the BS-filler in your posts and vids. Remember that we are sports writers, not novel writers: our idea of a huge graph is four, maybe five sentences AT THE MOST. And give us the biggest, most important stuff right away. You want to tell us about yourself, fine, go ahead, but put it on a separate clip. You're losing a ton of people with all the extra, unnecessary stuff.
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I hear you & understand - but that is not what I wanted to do & I was upfront from the start about that. Look, I can cut a sweet byte as well as anyone but that does no justice to this story at all & will only get us right back to where we are with this whole thing.

Rather, I wanted to do this in a substantive way to try to do it & Mark justice. There is a lot of ground to cover (likely 10 parts in full) and this is just a primer.

Thus, I only wanted people who were going to be serious about this and take the time to gain the knowledge/advantage.

If that does not work for you I understand but I have misled nobody.

There is good info in the upcoming parts and scoops. You either choose to take the time or you don't.

In other subjects I am more than happy to accommodate your needs but the problem with this whole thing is people only want a salacious headline and a quick fix.
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What you're not getting is that we're not going to sit around wading through a lot of stuff which has nothing to do with the story. And the sooner you learn that people DO want a quick summary and headline, you'll be much better off.
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look, thats fine - then just wait for the later videos & stop giving me shi@. How hard is that. They are coming. Also, as Whitlock said you can fast forward the videos as well.

Look, I am not trying to be a jerk but I explained the whole thing and put an outline to help you out as to what you wanted to watch bvc I knew it was long

Be patient

DyePack · Jan 5, 2007

Re: Part one of McGwire story up on You Tube NOW

Game of Shadows is a good thing. Except for those pesky prosecutors and those nasty contempt of court allegations. Someone should just make that go away.

Angola! · Jan 5, 2007

Re: Part one of McGwire story up on You Tube NOW

This has to be some sort of elaborate joke. The guy in the hat looks like he is about to start laughing hysterically multiple times in the videos. I think Rokski is just having a little fun with us.

markvid · Jan 5, 2007

Re: Part one of McGwire story up on You Tube NOW

John D. Villarreal said:

markvid said:

John D. Villarreal said:

PhilaYank36 said:

I couldn't even last more than 30 seconds. I really was holding out hope (I don't know why) that this would pan out to be something useful, but I can't get through that opening. John, I'm not going to hop on the bash-wagon, but you really need to cut through the BS-filler in your posts and vids. Remember that we are sports writers, not novel writers: our idea of a huge graph is four, maybe five sentences AT THE MOST. And give us the biggest, most important stuff right away. You want to tell us about yourself, fine, go ahead, but put it on a separate clip. You're losing a ton of people with all the extra, unnecessary stuff.
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I hear you & understand - but that is not what I wanted to do & I was upfront from the start about that. Look, I can cut a sweet byte as well as anyone but that does no justice to this story at all & will only get us right back to where we are with this whole thing.

Rather, I wanted to do this in a substantive way to try to do it & Mark justice. There is a lot of ground to cover (likely 10 parts in full) and this is just a primer.

Thus, I only wanted people who were going to be serious about this and take the time to gain the knowledge/advantage.

If that does not work for you I understand but I have misled nobody.

There is good info in the upcoming parts and scoops. You either choose to take the time or you don't.

In other subjects I am more than happy to accommodate your needs but the problem with this whole thing is people only want a salacious headline and a quick fix.
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John D. Villarreal said:

PhilaYank36 said:

I couldn't even last more than 30 seconds. I really was holding out hope (I don't know why) that this would pan out to be something useful, but I can't get through that opening. John, I'm not going to hop on the bash-wagon, but you really need to cut through the BS-filler in your posts and vids. Remember that we are sports writers, not novel writers: our idea of a huge graph is four, maybe five sentences AT THE MOST. And give us the biggest, most important stuff right away. You want to tell us about yourself, fine, go ahead, but put it on a separate clip. You're losing a ton of people with all the extra, unnecessary stuff.
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I hear you & understand - but that is not what I wanted to do & I was upfront from the start about that. Look, I can cut a sweet byte as well as anyone but that does no justice to this story at all & will only get us right back to where we are with this whole thing.

Rather, I wanted to do this in a substantive way to try to do it & Mark justice. There is a lot of ground to cover (likely 10 parts in full) and this is just a primer.

Thus, I only wanted people who were going to be serious about this and take the time to gain the knowledge/advantage.

If that does not work for you I understand but I have misled nobody.

There is good info in the upcoming parts and scoops. You either choose to take the time or you don't.

In other subjects I am more than happy to accommodate your needs but the problem with this whole thing is people only want a salacious headline and a quick fix.
Click to expand...

What you're not getting is that we're not going to sit around wading through a lot of stuff which has nothing to do with the story. And the sooner you learn that people DO want a quick summary and headline, you'll be much better off.
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look, thats fine - then just wait for the later videos & stop giving me shi@. How hard is that. They are coming. Also, as Whitlock said you can fast forward the videos as well.

Look, I am not trying to be a jerk but I explained the whole thing and put an outline to help you out as to what you wanted to watch bvc I knew it was long

Be patient
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Actually, don't beg us to watch it and not deliver anything worthwhile.
And do NOT tell me to be patient. I am not going to waste my time on you or your "scoops". If someone begs us to watch, the onus is on you for performance, clarity and brevity. Not for us to wait for something to happen.

Smasher_Sloan · Jan 5, 2007

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So McGwire not only finds out he's been rejected by HOF voters, he has this doofus out there tossing his name around?

Yikes, 2007 is already a tough year for the big redhead.

John D. Villarreal · Jan 5, 2007

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markvid said:

John D. Villarreal said:

markvid said:

John D. Villarreal said:

PhilaYank36 said:

I couldn't even last more than 30 seconds. I really was holding out hope (I don't know why) that this would pan out to be something useful, but I can't get through that opening. John, I'm not going to hop on the bash-wagon, but you really need to cut through the BS-filler in your posts and vids. Remember that we are sports writers, not novel writers: our idea of a huge graph is four, maybe five sentences AT THE MOST. And give us the biggest, most important stuff right away. You want to tell us about yourself, fine, go ahead, but put it on a separate clip. You're losing a ton of people with all the extra, unnecessary stuff.
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I hear you & understand - but that is not what I wanted to do & I was upfront from the start about that. Look, I can cut a sweet byte as well as anyone but that does no justice to this story at all & will only get us right back to where we are with this whole thing.

Rather, I wanted to do this in a substantive way to try to do it & Mark justice. There is a lot of ground to cover (likely 10 parts in full) and this is just a primer.

Thus, I only wanted people who were going to be serious about this and take the time to gain the knowledge/advantage.

If that does not work for you I understand but I have misled nobody.

There is good info in the upcoming parts and scoops. You either choose to take the time or you don't.

In other subjects I am more than happy to accommodate your needs but the problem with this whole thing is people only want a salacious headline and a quick fix.
Click to expand...

John D. Villarreal said:

PhilaYank36 said:

I couldn't even last more than 30 seconds. I really was holding out hope (I don't know why) that this would pan out to be something useful, but I can't get through that opening. John, I'm not going to hop on the bash-wagon, but you really need to cut through the BS-filler in your posts and vids. Remember that we are sports writers, not novel writers: our idea of a huge graph is four, maybe five sentences AT THE MOST. And give us the biggest, most important stuff right away. You want to tell us about yourself, fine, go ahead, but put it on a separate clip. You're losing a ton of people with all the extra, unnecessary stuff.
Click to expand...

I hear you & understand - but that is not what I wanted to do & I was upfront from the start about that. Look, I can cut a sweet byte as well as anyone but that does no justice to this story at all & will only get us right back to where we are with this whole thing.

Rather, I wanted to do this in a substantive way to try to do it & Mark justice. There is a lot of ground to cover (likely 10 parts in full) and this is just a primer.

Thus, I only wanted people who were going to be serious about this and take the time to gain the knowledge/advantage.

If that does not work for you I understand but I have misled nobody.

There is good info in the upcoming parts and scoops. You either choose to take the time or you don't.

In other subjects I am more than happy to accommodate your needs but the problem with this whole thing is people only want a salacious headline and a quick fix.
Click to expand...

What you're not getting is that we're not going to sit around wading through a lot of stuff which has nothing to do with the story. And the sooner you learn that people DO want a quick summary and headline, you'll be much better off.
Click to expand...

look, thats fine - then just wait for the later videos & stop giving me shi@. How hard is that. They are coming. Also, as Whitlock said you can fast forward the videos as well.

Look, I am not trying to be a jerk but I explained the whole thing and put an outline to help you out as to what you wanted to watch bvc I knew it was long

Be patient
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Actually, don't beg us to watch it and not deliver anything worthwhile.
And do NOT tell me to be patient. I am not going to waste my time on you or your "scoops". If someone begs us to watch, the onus is on you for performance, clarity and brevity. Not for us to wait for something to happen.
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Ok fair enough,

Here is the next part and its real pithy with some VERY pertinent messages for you

The Big Ragu · Jan 5, 2007

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I'll say one thing about Bob Knight. He knows how to get to the point.

markr · Jan 5, 2007

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John -- a few questions

Why are you losing your hair? Steroid use?

Why are you still using a crt screen? It certainly does not project a sylish image.

Chuck~Taylor · Jan 5, 2007

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Victor Conte thinks Jon Villarreal is a bumb

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