2013 College Football Coaching Carousel thread...

[DanOregon]

When you have a program at the levels of Florida, when recruiting is everything, it doesn't take much to go from national contender to conference also-ran when the coach's job security is in question.
A win over Florida State would probably save him for a year, but you have to wonder. It isn't just about wins and losses, but the direction of the program. Do they have some stud in the wings at QB or RB?

 

[Mizzougrad96]

The day after the Georgia Southern loss, the Orlando Sentinel published a list of potential replacements for Muschamp that included Gene Chizik, Chad Morris, Lane Kiffin, Dirk Koetter... The Kiffin suggestion was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but the list was beyond laughable. Only decent name on the list was Charlie Strong.

It was not written by Edgar Thompson (who is great) or Mike Bianchi (one of my favorites) but I felt embarrassed for The Sentinel when I read it.

Strong has to be the first call, right?

If you believe the articles that ran today, he's not getting fired, so it's a non-issue.

Based on nothing other than my internal belief that you can't lose to Georgia Southern at UF, I do not believe the articles that ran today.

I believe them, because I know what a stubborn asshole Foley is and Muschamp's failure is his failure.

Foley is a great AD, maybe one of the best in the country, but he has whiffed badly on football hires. He didn't hire Spurrier, that was before he was AD. He hired Zook. The UF president had been at Utah when Meyer was the coach there and was the main reason why Meyer was hired. And now Muschamp, who was a Foley hire.

He also made one of the best basketball hires in recent memory, but if you're the AD at Florida and you can't hire a decent football coach, that's a problem. He desperately needs Muschamp to succeed.

That still doesn't justify keeping him, because anything short of a 10-win season next year and they'll be calling for his head anyway.

That was one of the worst losses by an elite program in college football history. It's got to be top 5 or top 10.

 

[LongTimeListener]

When you have a program at the levels of Florida, when recruiting is everything, it doesn't take much to go from national contender to conference also-ran when the coach's job security is in question.
A win over Florida State would probably save him for a year, but you have to wonder. It isn't just about wins and losses, but the direction of the program. Do they have some stud in the wings at QB or RB?

Marty Mornhinweg's kid has been playing QB as a freshman, so he's the alleged stud, but he has a long way to go.

I wonder what the recruiting rankings/outlook has been on them. Last year was still in the "he did it with Urban's guys" timespan. If the talent has dropped that considerably, waiting around for sake of appearances is pointless.

 

[doctorx]

When you have a program at the levels of Florida, when recruiting is everything, it doesn't take much to go from national contender to conference also-ran when the coach's job security is in question.
A win over Florida State would probably save him for a year, but you have to wonder. It isn't just about wins and losses, but the direction of the program. Do they have some stud in the wings at QB or RB?

Marty Mornhinweg's kid has been playing QB as a freshman, so he's the alleged stud, but he has a long way to go.

I wonder what the recruiting rankings/outlook has been on them. Last year was still in the "he did it with Urban's guys" timespan. If the talent has dropped that considerably, waiting around for sake of appearances is pointless.

The alleged stud is still in high school.

 

[qtlaw]

With Florida losing at home to Georgia Southern on Saturday, there is no damn way Muschamp is back next year.

Every indication is that they're bringing him back, which I think is stunning. The boosters and the batshirt fanbase will never forgive him for that loss.

Nor should they.
Georgia Southern doesn't complete a pass (0-3), and yet they beat you at home.
Ye Gods.

When a team cannot complete a pass, I wonder why the D just does not put 9 in the box? I've seen teams play a team that has no propensity continue to put a safety or two 20 yds back, its mind-blowing. Its just like a defense defending a team trying to run out the clock, you know there's no way they are going to throw or even throw downfield yet the safeties are back in their normal positions and the offense runs it for 5-10 yds.

 

[exmediahack]

I'm also surprised Gundy is still at Okie State. Reminds me a little of Rich Rodriguez at West Virginia. An alum of the school who probably feels unappreciated after a while. I could easily see his agent doing a lot of listening this off season.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I'm also surprised Gundy is still at Okie State. Reminds me a little of Rich Rodriguez at West Virginia. An alum of the school who probably feels unappreciated after a while. I could easily see his agent doing a lot of listening this off season.

He got a nice pay bump last year when Tennessee came calling. I think he's in the top 10 of highest-paid.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I was wrong. He's the 11th highest paid. $3.45 mil a year.

 

[Mark2010]

When you have a program at the levels of Florida, when recruiting is everything, it doesn't take much to go from national contender to conference also-ran when the coach's job security is in question.
A win over Florida State would probably save him for a year, but you have to wonder. It isn't just about wins and losses, but the direction of the program. Do they have some stud in the wings at QB or RB?

What some people don't seem to understand is that you don't fire a head coach based on one game, regardless of who or what. Heck, Michigan lost at home to Appalachian State a few years ago when the Wolverines were ranked in the top five. It happens. And far better for it to happen now than some year when the team is vying for something important. This season was shot two months ago.

I didn't see the Georgia Southern game, but I know Florida is playing without a lot of their projected starters. I am interested to see how they come out against Florida State this week. Will they make that one their bowl game? Or lay down and roll over? That level of compete will tell us a lot.

As recently as three weeks ago, Foley was quoted as saying he was "1000 percent" sure that Muschamp was the right guy going forward. OK, if that's the case, you don't change your mind based on one game result. People forget Florida was in the Sugar Bowl and ranked as high as three last season. If they can go from 11-2 to 4-8 in one year, isn't the reverse also possible? I've never thought they would make a change THIS YEAR, but it will be interesting to follow going forward.

 

[Mark2010]

I'm also surprised Gundy is still at Okie State. Reminds me a little of Rich Rodriguez at West Virginia. An alum of the school who probably feels unappreciated after a while. I could easily see his agent doing a lot of listening this off season.

Gundy was a guy who happened to be in the right place at the right time when Les Miles went to LSU.

At the time, I thought OSU would do a lot better. Now, I agree with the Tulsa World columnist who wrote that Gundy has sort of grown into the job of a head coach. He's an OSU guy (played on the same team with Barry Sanders in the late 1980s) and, as such, the fan base tends to give him more rope than they might someone else. How much that would translate to someplace else where the fan base doesn't have a built-in loyalty to him is hard to say.

 

[wicked]

Gundy comes off, I'm-40 rant aside, as smart enough and the type of guy who won't leave for the sake of leaving, which is what Richie Rod did -- even though there couldn't have been a worse fit out there at the time. Having T. Boone be able to pick up the tab on a raise when needed probably helps.

 

[Chef2]

Two things:

I don't think Gundy is going to go anywhere.

If Foley dumps Muschamp at season's end, Chad Morris should be on the short list.