2013 Pro Wrestling Thread

[ucacm]

Yeah, I tune in almost every week and did not realize he had that streak going. I don't think it is that big of a deal because he had suffered defeat as part of a team before. Not quite the same as being truly undefeated.

 

[JRoyal]

I know we're supposed to suspend belief, but it's pretty ridiculous to see the Shield just mowing these guys down.

Think about it, though. The first three guys that were eliminated -- RVD, Kofi and Titus O'Neill -- were beat down earlier in the show. The next two -- Gabriel and Ryder -- were total jobbers. So the five of them going out without a member of the Shield being eliminated isn't completely insane. Then Reigns is eliminated. Then the remaining members of the Shield oust Darren Young, another wrestler who was beaten down in a match then pummeled after it earlier in the show. Not a shock to see him eliminated. At that point, the only face who got eliminated was R Truth, a guy who's only slightly above jobber status.

The booking of the show as a whole makes the booking of the match work.

 

[Baron Scicluna]

I know we're supposed to suspend belief, but it's pretty ridiculous to see the Shield just mowing these guys down.

Think about it, though. The first three guys that were eliminated -- RVD, Kofi and Titus O'Neill -- were beat down earlier in the show. The next two -- Gabriel and Ryder -- were total jobbers. So the five of them going out without a member of the Shield being eliminated isn't completely insane. Then Reigns is eliminated. Then the remaining members of the Shield oust Darren Young, another wrestler who was beaten down in a match then pummeled after it earlier in the show. Not a shock to see him eliminated. At that point, the only face who got eliminated was R Truth, a guy who's only slightly above jobber status.

The booking of the show as a whole makes the booking of the match work.

Yeah, I can see that, but if the first three guys were so beaten down, wouldn't strategy dictate that they stay on the side to start the match, rather than get in the ring? Kinda like how a team with hurt players doesn't start them that day?

Start out with the jobbers, then when they get squashed, then bring in the main healthy guys. When the main guys get beaten up a bit and have no choice but to tag out to the beaten down guys, then those guys lose.

 

[KYSportsWriter]

Methinks everyone is overthinking this.

We all knew it would come down to the four who are currently involved in story lines with the Corporation -- Bryan, Ziggler and the Usos. It helps get those four over even more in my eyes. It shouldn't matter who was eliminated at whatever point in the match.

 

[Mystery Meat II]

On the whole, that was a well-played match. The booking made a lot of sense.
The Shield worked a style of match that suited an outnumbered force -- isolate individual guys, get a few pinfalls through quick-hit moves and solid tag team wrestling, and try to even the odds. It actually showed good strategy, especially while the faces were a bit overconfident because of their numerical superiority. If the Shield guys are truly championship-caliber, they ought to be able to hold their own when they can control the pace like they did in the first half of the match. No problems there. Then, you still had a 4-on-1 finish to make the rest of the roster look competent, and Bryan gets to stand tall for once.
Nicely done, WWE.

I question giving away Roman Reigns' first pin in the middle of a cluttered handicap match on a between-PPVs Raw. He went unpinned and unsubmitted for 10 months, so you'd think the first loss should be a bigger deal. But then they didn't exactly trumpet his streak in the first place, probably because it would fracture the focus on the group.

It also happened during a three-on-one attack from the Usos (plays up their tag title chances) and Daniel Bryan, and after he'd single-handedly eliminated several people. Maybe it should've been a bigger deal, but I don't think he's hurt by it.

Nor do I, but if you're going to have a guy rattle off a long winning streak, particularly if he's a rookie, and a big heel at that, logic dictates you make his first defeat a big deal. Though in fairness, the only analog is Goldberg, and he was a monster face. TNA tried to do it with Crimson, but nobody ever cared about him, face or heel.

But they never made a big deal of his streak, so it doesn't really matter a whole helluva lot.

Which is a problem. Why protect someone to that degree if the first loss is no big deal? There was a reason 3/4 of the jobs were done by Rollins, 1/4 by Ambrose and zero by Reigns. But they only implied that Reigns was the big hitter by virtue of his never jobbing and that his spear is either the finishing move or the difference maker in nearly every six-man match they've had. It's as though they had half a decent idea, then never progressed from that point.

 

[Bradley Guire]

http://www.amazon.com/WWE-Goldberg-Ultimate-Collection-Blu-ray/dp/B00DNF1R74/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380073085&sr=8-1&keywords=goldberg

The Goldberg Blu-ray has a run time of 540 minutes. Considering his average match time was two minutes, it's safe to assume we're getting them all. </smarksnark> Wait until after Christmas and Best Buy will have this in the $10 bin.

 

[Batman]

http://www.amazon.com/WWE-Goldberg-Ultimate-Collection-Blu-ray/dp/B00DNF1R74/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380073085&sr=8-1&keywords=goldberg

The Goldberg Blu-ray has a run time of 540 minutes. Considering his average match time was two minutes, it's safe to assume we're getting them all. </smarksnark> Wait until after Christmas and Best Buy will have this in the $10 bin.

To honor the streak, the price will start at $29.95, gradually drop for two months, then suddenly plummet to $2.

 

[FootballScribe]

The WWE would be so happy to see this much discussion/dissection of that tag match.

 

[Bradley Guire]

An Uso had to pin a Shield member to show that it's possible for the Usos to win the tag titles. Somebody's going to do it eventually.

Anyway, kind of surprised that Bryan emerged victorious two weeks in a row. Then again, I see that the next PPV is only two weeks away. The E is really trying to cram these paid shows in late to make up for the bigger gaps around WM29 this year. No March show, WM in early April, Extreme Rules delayed to May.

 

[sgreenwell]

http://www.amazon.com/WWE-Goldberg-Ultimate-Collection-Blu-ray/dp/B00DNF1R74/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380073085&sr=8-1&keywords=goldberg

The Goldberg Blu-ray has a run time of 540 minutes.

$24.99 is a lot to pay for a blank disc. </oldPWIjoke>

 

[KYSportsWriter]

An Uso had to pin a Shield member to show that it's possible for the Usos to win the tag titles. Somebody's going to do it eventually.

Anyway, kind of surprised that Bryan emerged victorious two weeks in a row. Then again, I see that the next PPV is only two weeks away. The E is really trying to cram these paid shows in late to make up for the bigger gaps around WM29 this year. No March show, WM in early April, Extreme Rules delayed to May.

They typically haven't done a PPV in March. Gives them more time to build story lines.

 

[Bradley Guire]

I was more surprised by the lack of a second April PPV. Usually WM is the last days of March/first days of April, with Extreme Rules (or Backlash) following up quickly three weeks later in late April. Instead of two April PPVs, we're getting two October PPVs, Battleground and heck in a Cell.